A Kansas doctor tells what it was like befor MEDICARE (Ron Paul, military)
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I almost feel sorry for some folks. I mean, I understand why the very wealthy (or at least many of them) fight against the things that would help the typical American. After all, they live in a charmed world and control it all with the flick of a pen. And I can understand why the insurance companies fight against health care reform. After all, every year they get more and more wealthy as the manipulate the lives of the typical Americans.
But how pathetic is it that they have so brainwashed some folks that those people are actually willing to fight against their own...and their country's.....best interest just to enrich those who wouldn't spit on them if they were on fire. Do they really not understand....do they really not get it....that the people for whom they are giving up their family's and their own future are sitting in the country club or on their yacht laughing at them?
You obviously have no idea what it is to work hard, sacrifice and enjoy the fruits of your labor. THAT'S what the wealthy have done.
Typical leftie conclusion - wealth is all about luck. Gives them a built in excuse when they're too danged lazy to make their own success.
FYI - the one's fighting against our interests are the DC elite, that ride around in limos, play golf all day, refuse to do their job, then decide that the solution to their incompetent handling of the economy is to just take more of our money.
You obviously have no idea what it is to work hard, sacrifice and enjoy the fruits of your labor. THAT'S what the wealthy have done.
Typical leftie conclusion - wealth is all about luck. Gives them a built in excuse when they're too danged lazy to make their own success.
FYI - the one's fighting against our interests are the DC elite, that ride around in limos, play golf all day, refuse to do their job, then decide that the solution to their incompetent handling of the economy is to just take more of our money.
And virtually all of them are wealthy... the kind you worship (see para one of your post).
This thread is about Medicare, not end of life care. Different subject altogether.
Something tells me you are very young, or you wouldn't have such a cavalier attitude about Mr. ______!
Medicare problems are quite often about end of life issues. That's where a lot of the money goes. It's not a different subject. It's one aspect of the same subject.
Nope, sorry to disappoint you, but I am 80 and my husband is 84. We know only too well about our friends and relatives that have been kept alive for a few extra days. It gets worse and worse as medical knowledge grows. It's nice to think about Mr._____ having that extra time to say goodbye and express love,etc to the family. But the truth is that he would usually be comatose and unaware.
The husband and I know what we want. It's not to be preserved for a little while longer. Life has be good to us. We don't want it to end hooked up to tubes and respirators. Our doctors know our feelings too. I know mine is grateful that I have been honest with her. It's a burden for doctor to care for the elderly when they don't know the deep feelings that may be there about death.
Medicare problems are quite often about end of life issues. That's where a lot of the money goes. It's not a different subject. It's one aspect of the same subject.
Nope, sorry to disappoint you, but I am 80 and my husband is 84. We know only too well about our friends and relatives that have been kept alive for a few extra days. It gets worse and worse as medical knowledge grows. It's nice to think about Mr._____ having that extra time to say goodbye and express love,etc to the family. But the truth is that he would usually be comatose and unaware.
The husband and I know what we want. It's not to be preserved for a little while longer. Life has be good to us. We don't want it to end hooked up to tubes and respirators. Our doctors know our feelings too. I know mine is grateful that I have been honest with her. It's a burden for doctor to care for the elderly when they don't know the deep feelings that may be there about death.
Well, I've been wrong before!
Surely you are aware that whenever you enter a hospital, you are asked what your wishes are in regard to resuscitation? Surely you are aware of "advance directives" as well?
I see you understand the advantage of having a talk with your doctor about these issues. That is what "Obamacare" originally proposed, but SP and the other RWs started calling that "death panels".
I don't know of anyone who wants their life to be prolonged unnecessarily, but life doesn't always work out exactly the way we want it. Some people go fast, some don't, even with no extraordinary care (or even ordinary care).
let's really look at the problem. It's the END OF LIFE! Do you really want to extend your illness so that you live a few extra days.?
I am assuming you're against such ideas. However, that begs the question, what was your take on Obama's "Death Panels" as advertised by his political opposition?
Can anyone on this board tell me that they have saved enough to pay monthly prescriptions for diabetes, hypertension, osteoporosis, rheumatoid arthritis. How much have you saved for doctor's visits, follow up appointments with specialists.
Saved up enough for that malignant tumor, cataracs, hip or knee replacement, how about that hormone replacement therapy, or the cost of physical therapy after a stroke??
America must be blessed by God because he didn't bless many of it's people with common sense and dignity.
If you don't know of anyone that can pay for what you're advocating, that should be the very first clue that it's entirely a pipe dream made up from people smoking on pipes with other people dreaming about pipes and what they can pass off to you for what flows through them.
Single payer is essentially Medicare for all. Instead of going to a doctor and having the doctor's staff figuring out which insurance company to send the bill and having the insurance company try to pawn off the cost to another insurance company or deny coverage, etc., the doctor sends the bill to a government entity that evaluates the charges and pays according to a schedule.
Single payer eliminates a large amount of administrative costs. Europeans that I know, report that one goes to a doctor, they get treated and present their card to the staff. That's it.
As a result, all Americans would be covered. If the system is similar to other European systems, the total cost is half of what the U.S. pays and covers everyone. Thus, if we did this today, we wouldn't be debating debt ceilings.
But Conservatives are all about preserving the power of CORPORATIONS. That's why they are so against single payer.
There is an inherent conflict of interest in for profit health insurance. Companies primary responsibilities' are the to their investors NOT patients who buy their coverage. As long as that inherent conflict of interests is at work patients don't get the best health care and cost will continue to rise in the name of PROFITABILITY.
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