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Old 06-09-2011, 09:48 PM
 
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In southern illinois.

Every stop, when asked what they worry about in the future, all 3 farmers (a hog farmer, dairy farmer, and grain farmer) and the feed store guy all told me government regulations were their main worry.

For example, the feed store owner said that to store his 1000 gallons of molasses, he had to build a berm around it so it couldn't spread if it spilled. it's sugar. You can eat the stuff. But the EPA says it's dangerous. The dairy farmer actually said the same thing. Initially, because milk has fat, it was classified as an "oil" and the same law applied. It was then lifted this year before it got enforced.

The dairy farmer said they have to spend $500,000 to get compliant. He can't do that, and is only currently 80% compliant. He's hoping to get there eventually.

They all agree that government regulators are just idiotic, and don't use common sense. And there are people that think we need to put them in charge of our health care?
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:50 PM
 
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You must be some kind of wacko right-wing nutjob to think there is any problem with any of this.
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Old 06-09-2011, 09:57 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Honestly..a milk spill could bring the US to a complete standstill economically.
The last thing we need now is to totally crater the frail US economy because of a "milk spill" by Elsie.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:04 PM
 
Location: SC
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In southern illinois.

Every stop, when asked what they worry about in the future, all 3 farmers (a hog farmer, dairy farmer, and grain farmer) and the feed store guy all told me government regulations were their main worry.

For example, the feed store owner said that to store his 1000 gallons of molasses, he had to build a berm around it so it couldn't spread if it spilled. it's sugar. You can eat the stuff. But the EPA says it's dangerous. The dairy farmer actually said the same thing. Initially, because milk has fat, it was classified as an "oil" and the same law applied. It was then lifted this year before it got enforced.

The dairy farmer said they have to spend $500,000 to get compliant. He can't do that, and is only currently 80% compliant. He's hoping to get there eventually.

They all agree that government regulators are just idiotic, and don't use common sense. And there are people that think we need to put them in charge of our health care?
No kidding and did he mention which Fortune 100 companies benefited from the business for their companies those regulations would result in?
They probably didn't think about it that deeply but they should. Behind every government "safety" or "energy conservation" regulation is a Fortune 100 company if not multiple companies AND government officials who stand to profit from it. EVERYONE needs to FOLLOW THE MONEY.

These regulations have NOTHING to do with "safety" or "conservation" or what have you and EVERYTHING to do with CONTROL of the populace and PROFITS for the elites.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:05 PM
 
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You must be some kind of wacko right-wing nutjob to think there is any problem with any of this.
I grew up in a farming town, worked for many types of areas as I was growing up. He is right, there is a lot of idiocy in the regulations from morons who know nothing about the trade, nor understand even that which they are enforcing.

Sorry, but it isn't a "political" thing as you suggest, it is an idiot versus common sense thing (and I know many democrat farmers who agree this regulatory garbage is insanely stupid run by people who have no clue).
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:09 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I used to live in Illinois ag country. The farmers were always complaing, even 40 years ago. It's part of their way of life. I learned to ignore it.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:10 PM
 
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I grew up in a farming town, worked for many types of areas as I was growing up. He is right, there is a lot of idiocy in the regulations from morons who know nothing about the trade, nor understand even that which they are enforcing.

Sorry, but it isn't a "political" thing as you suggest, it is an idiot versus common sense thing (and I know many democrat farmers who agree this regulatory garbage is insanely stupid run by people who have no clue).
It's putting a lot of small business owners out of business. I find it interesting especially in a state such as Illinois, home to our illustrious leader. These guys are genuinely worried that their kids won't be in the business in 20 years because of some idiot bureaucrat telling them to put up stupid safety regulations.

The next one? One soybean farmer actually told me that they were talking about regulating dust.

Seriously...they are actually going to tell a farmer he can't make dust.
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Silver Springs, FL
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It's putting a lot of small business owners out of business. I find it interesting especially in a state such as Illinois, home to our illustrious leader. These guys are genuinely worried that their kids won't be in the business in 20 years because of some idiot bureaucrat telling them to put up stupid safety regulations.

The next one? One soybean farmer actually told me that they were talking about regulating dust.

Seriously...they are actually going to tell a farmer he can't make dust.
How does one regulate dust?
I grew up in rural SE MO on the banks of the Mississippi........this I gotta hear......
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Old 06-09-2011, 10:17 PM
 
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I used to live in Illinois ag country. The farmers were always complaing, even 40 years ago. It's part of their way of life. I learned to ignore it.
I don't understand why you are being snarky here. The regulations that the OP listed really are idiotic. Why shouldn't people complain about things that are wrong? What if someone said, "the rape victims are always complaining - it's part of their way of life -- I learned to ignore it."

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Old 06-09-2011, 10:19 PM
 
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How does one regulate dust?
I grew up in rural SE MO on the banks of the Mississippi........this I gotta hear......
Apparently with water. The farmer I talked to was genuinely concerned...he has to have beans dry enough to be threshed to separate the beans from the pod...which would cause a certain amount of dust to be generated.

Honestly....it's just madness.
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