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No, both those cities would be fine for liberals...
You'd have to pick somewhere like Ogden, Utah, but even there I've known fairly liberal folks who lived there for the skiing. Maybe some big Republican suburb...I don't know what it would be however.
When you start getting into cities that are larger than a quarter million in size, you begin to get a much larger liberal population. Conservatives typically prefer the suburbs or smaller more rural communities. It is unclear whether liberals gravitate toward large cities, or are the result of living in large cities, or both, but that is where you will find the vast majority.
If I can live among Christians, I can live among Muslims. As far as San Francisco is concerned, I would not live within 1,000 miles of that hell-hole. The day the "Big One" strikes California and completely wipes San Francisco from the face of the planet is the same day I will be dancing in the streets.
Sounds like you'd prefer Dearborn so you can join the Muslim shariaists dancing in the streets at the deaths of Americans.
No, both those cities would be fine for liberals...
You'd have to pick somewhere like Ogden, Utah, but even there I've known fairly liberal folks who lived there for the skiing. Maybe some big Republican suburb...I don't know what it would be however.
Colorado Springs
Topeka
Oklahoma City
I took a road trip from Denver to Dallas last year. I was totally shocked when I drove through Oklahoma City at night and saw that the lights in the largest buildings (all of them) are lite up in the form of giant Christian crosses.
So what would be the equivalent liberal conundrum?
Birmingham Alabama vs. Anchorage Alaska?
The thing with conservatives is we're not packed into little enclaves like liberals are. There's dozens of places in the country where liberals could go years without encountering any real life conservatives. Madison, San Francisco, Dearborn, Manhattan, Southside Chicago, Cambridge, DC, etc. That would be impossible for a conservative. There's very few places that are more than two thirds conservative. Conservatives encounter liberals almost daily; the reverse is not true for millions of liberals.
The thing with conservatives is we're not packed into little enclaves like liberals are. There's dozens of places in the country where liberals could go years without encountering any real life conservatives. Madison, San Francisco, Dearborn, Manhattan, Southside Chicago, Cambridge, DC, etc. That would be impossible for a conservative. On the other hand, there's very few places that are more than two thirds conservative. Conservatives encounter liberals almost daily; the reverse is not true for millions of liberals.
Very good point, and considering self identified liberals are a much smaller group, this is an interesting phenomenon. I think it is likely that they are much less tolerant of conservative views than conservatives are of liberal views. That is what I have observed in the NYC area.
The thing with conservatives is we're not packed into little enclaves like liberals are. There's dozens of places in the country where liberals could go years without encountering any real life conservatives. Madison, San Francisco, Dearborn, Manhattan, Southside Chicago, Cambridge, DC, etc. That would be impossible for a conservative. On the other hand, there's very few places that are more than two thirds conservative. Conservatives encounter liberals almost daily; the reverse is not true for millions of liberals.
While in a large city, that is certainly true. However, once you get out into the country-side, those proportions change significantly. As any election map broken down by county/borough/parish shows, the vast majority of conservatives live in small rural communities, whereas the vast majority of liberals live in large population centers.
It is in keeping with both of their underlying philosophy. Conservatives want less government involvement in their daily lives, so they live where government is the least intrusive - in less densely populated, more rural areas. Whereas, liberals want more government involvement in their daily lives, so they live where government is concentrated the most - in more densely populated large urban areas.
I took a road trip from Denver to Dallas last year. I was totally shocked when I drove through Oklahoma City at night and saw that the lights in the largest buildings are lite up in the form of giant Christian crosses.
Even these cities voted ~40% Obama. They don't compare to places like San Francisco and Dearborn that vote ~95% one way.
While in a large city, that is certainly true. However, once you get out into the country-side, those proportions change significantly. As any election map broken down by county/borough/parish shows, the vast majority of conservatives live in small rural communities, whereas the vast majority of liberals live in large population centers.
It is in keeping with both of their underlying philosophy. Conservatives want less government involvement in their daily lives, so they live where government is the least intrusive - in less densely populated, more rural areas. Whereas, liberals want more government involvement in their daily lives, so they live where government is concentrated the most - in more densely populated large urban areas.
Kind of but if you compare counties, there are very few counties in the country that voted over 70% for McCain. The few that did are likely a tiny percentage of the number of conservatives in this country. The majority of conservatives live in suburban areas or small cities that are around 50-60% Republican. On the other hand, I would say a very large number of liberals live in counties that voted over 70%, 80% or even over 90% for Obama. It would be interesting if someone could dig up the statistics on this.
Even these cities voted ~40% Obama. They don't compare to places like San Francisco and Dearborn that vote ~95% one way.
This is an election map of the lower-48 for 2008, broken down not just by county/borough/parish, but also shaded to reflect the percentage.
The highest concentration of liberals are always in the large population centers, and the highest concentration of conservatives are always in more rural areas.
This is an election map of the lower-48 for 2008, broken down not just by county/borough/parish, but also shaded to reflect the percentage.
The highest concentration of liberals are always in the large population centers, and the highest concentration of conservatives are always in more rural areas.
Yes, rural area vote heavily Republican but they're very sparsely populated. I doubt the amount of conservatives living in heavily conservative rural counties is more than 10% of the total number of conservatives in the country. The percentage of liberals living in heavily liberal counties is much higher.
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