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Old 06-12-2011, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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President Bush said he wanted to fundamentally change social security, and that is a very American concept today.

The fact of the matter is we've been a socialist nation for at least the past 80 years, and people like it.
Actually, Social Security is a very socialist concept, not American at all. It is also just one more indication of the Democrat's sick entitlement mentality and their attempt to destroy everything that the US has stood for.

If "people like it" then why do they always vote the Marxist Democrats out of power whenever they attempt to force their socialist agenda down our throats? You are deluding yourself.

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Any change to the other is a change from the American way.

I'll ask the same question

Do you have proof that the President is committing treason?
As I previously posted, a sitting President is incapable of committing treason. Only a complete idiot could think otherwise.
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Old 06-12-2011, 05:47 PM
 
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Actually, Social Security is a very socialist concept, not American at all. It is also just one more indication of the Democrat's sick entitlement mentality and their attempt to destroy everything that the US has stood for.

If "people like it" then why do they always vote the Marxist Democrats out of power whenever they attempt to force their socialist agenda down our throats? You are deluding yourself.



As I previously posted, a sitting President is incapable of committing treason. Only a complete idiot could think otherwise.
Yep....but entitlements are also the 3rd rail of politics. I mean, we need to make changes to programs like SS.....but good luck on doing it. Whoever jumps first (see Bush's attempt) will get fried by the OTHER side.

But, ho-hum, SS is going broke, will be regularly taking in less than it pays out EVERY year...so we have another bankrupt program.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:07 PM
 
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Actually, Social Security is a very socialist concept, not American at all. It is also just one more indication of the Democrat's sick entitlement mentality and their attempt to destroy everything that the US has stood for.

If "people like it" then why do they always vote the Marxist Democrats out of power whenever they attempt to force their socialist agenda down our throats? You are deluding yourself.

As I previously posted, a sitting President is incapable of committing treason. Only a complete idiot could think otherwise.
"The Wehrmacht and its intelligence arm, the Abwehr, had ample evidence that Hitler and Borman were traitors. They knew Borman was leaking their plans. They knew Hitler was deliberately sabotaging the war effort."

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Old 06-13-2011, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Yep....but entitlements are also the 3rd rail of politics. I mean, we need to make changes to programs like SS.....but good luck on doing it. Whoever jumps first (see Bush's attempt) will get fried by the OTHER side.

But, ho-hum, SS is going broke, will be regularly taking in less than it pays out EVERY year...so we have another bankrupt program.
It should never have existed in the first place, and should be completely abolished now. That will be an instant 15% tax cut by itself. For over 140 years the US got along just fine without that Ponzi scheme, and we can do so again. I have worked for over 40 years contributing into Social Security, and I do not expect one penny of what I contributed will be there when I retire in a just few more years.

The same is also true with the socialist MediCare/MedicAid programs, abolish them. With Social Security and MediCare/MedicAid gone that would reduce federal spending by 57%.

The absolute worst thing we can do as a nation is listen to these socialist fascists pretending to be "progressive" Democrats. That will destroy us faster than any foreign enemy could conceive.
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Old 06-13-2011, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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I think people are missing the point.

All legal laws and government programs are American. This idea that America can't be socialist or communist under the current constitution is laughable.
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Old 06-13-2011, 05:04 PM
 
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LOL! We had a family fish fry yesterday, and there's my BIL in an NRA tee. All was cordial, we all care about one another, but when he put on Fox, it was time to flee! As radical and racist as he is, he doesn't believe that President Obama is out to "ruin America." That's when you leave the boundaries of reason and enter the theater of the absurd.
Wow, so you watch Fox and you're a radical racist. You're not too ignorant, are you.
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Old 06-13-2011, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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I think people are missing the point.

All legal laws and government programs are American. This idea that America can't be socialist or communist under the current constitution is laughable.
The US cannot be socialist if the US Constitution is followed. The only way socialism can creep into American society is by deliberately violating the US Constitution, like the liberal freaks in Congress do on a daily basis.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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Wow, so you watch Fox and you're a radical racist. You're not too ignorant, are you.

Not so ignorant as to drag up an old post, then not even understand what was said. My BIL is so racist that he's called for "a final solution" for black Americans....and he self-identifies as Jewish, although he doesn't know squat about it and hasn't been in a synogogue in 50 years or more. What sane person would want to be close to someone like that? And no, I don't watch Fox News...when it won a court case based on the fact that it's an
"entertainment network" as opposed to a "news source," it lost any street cred that it might have had. That's why when the BIL put it on, it was time to leave. Clear now? And racist? Not worthy of a reply on that point.
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Old 06-13-2011, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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The US cannot be socialist if the US Constitution is followed. The only way socialism can creep into American society is by deliberately violating the US Constitution, like the liberal freaks in Congress do on a daily basis.
The Supreme court, the branch that interprets the constitution says your wrong.

I'm inclined to believe legal experts that have been ruling since the founding of the nation.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The Supreme court, the branch that interprets the constitution says your wrong.

I'm inclined to believe legal experts that have been ruling since the founding of the nation.
Actually, the Supreme Court has proven me correct every time. The overwhelming vast majority of the laws the Supreme Court has tossed out as unconstitutional have been enacted by liberal freaks.

Just because liberal freaks choose to ignore the Supreme Court and continue violating the US Constitution at every turn, does not make the liberal freaks right, just fascists that should be shot on sight.
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