Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
Exactly. Look at the agenda and politics of the Socialist party during the past 6 years and you will see it just a normal party.
They had the same problem in Germany when Schröder was chancellor. He was the head of the social democratic party (Americans would say Socialist), but many people felt the party did simply not match its name anymore during his term, it had become a normal capitalist party not much to the left of other parties. And that social democratic party was also punished by voters for what they considered more or less fraud and betrayal.
Ah, you know, people always attach meaning to such names. As though the DDR (or GDR in English - German Democratic Republic) was somehow, democratic in nature...
Ah, you know, people always attach meaning to such names. As though the DDR (or GDR in English - German Democratic Republic) was somehow, democratic in nature...
It's the same reason why the right wing in this country insists on calling the Dems Nazis because they had "Socialist" in their name.
That is just one of the many reasons to increase education funding in this country.
Run away unchecked greed *AKA capitalism* is what got us here.
No. Government implementing price controls, welfare programs, and quasi-private entities with special powers and interest to "create" a market is what got us in this mess. True capitalism would have eaten the greedy bastards that took advantage of the ridiculously stupid people in our government for lunch and they would have been left out on the street to eat trash from the local restaurant.
Big-daddy-government decided that wasn't kosher since those people where their friends and now several years later we're still TARP'ing the crap out of anything that doesn't move.
Well, this is not very insightful. Your argument is that a country being broke means that it's political system has failed.
Only problem is that the US, too, is broke - so, does that mean that Capitalism is a failed system? That it has bitten the dust and that we need to come up with a better system here?
Actually, what is happening is that the Socialist encroachment on our Capitalist System that began many decades ago is failing. We are seeing the fruition of this Government expansion and partnership with Corporations and it is taking its toll, with a near bankrupt economy and with increasingly Totalitarian/Fascist government control usurping our Freedoms at an alarming rate.
Our only real hope is someone like Ron Paul in 2012. He doesn't want Corporate control and he doesn't want Government control. He stands for regaining our Individual Liberties.
Actually, what is happening is that the Socialist encroachment on our Capitalist System that began many decades ago is failing. We are seeing the fruition of this Government expansion and partnership with Corporations and it is taking its toll, with a near bankrupt economy and with increasingly Totalitarian/Fascist government control usurping our Freedoms at an alarming rate.
Our only real hope is someone like Ron Paul in 2012. He doesn't want Corporate control and he doesn't want Government control. He stands for regaining our Individual Liberties.
Please explain to all of us how the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act... which led to deregulation of banks allowing personal banks to invest money... and which led to the failing of many banks during this crisis... was an act of socialism?
You can't have a functioning society if everyone is looking out for themselves.
This thread is more of the same. The conservative cheer-leaders on here generally have a complete lack of understanding of European politics and the way most Europeans view the role of government. They then take an isolated event and extrapolate it to try to prove their US idealogical views are correct.
Perfect post and I concur. This kind of ignorance would almost be hilarious if it wasn't a tool of propaganda and agenda setting for some American policy makers who perceive Europe through some bizarre distorted lens of utter ignorance and lack of comprehension.
People always seem to grasp the simple concept that most elections end up as punishment to the current government if the economic situation has failed. It has nothing to do with being left or right. People at the end of the day expect their politicians to deliver and blame them when their situation does not improve. Cue punishment , out with the old in with the new, until the next **** up and then back to the beginning again.... Politics is a merry dance of as nauseam repetition.
By the simplistic reasoning of the OP , both left and right have had their days a dozen times over in the last century in most countries.
Capitalism obviously failed as the US elected a Democrat ?!?!
Please explain to all of us how the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act... which led to deregulation of banks allowing personal banks to invest money... and which led to the failing of many banks during this crisis... was an act of socialism?
You can't have a functioning society if everyone is looking out for themselves.
Oh yeah. That Big Government regulation works sooooo well...especially when Government is married to the Corporation, which happens with every long term romance of giant egos.
"Wachovia's blatant disregard for our banking laws gave international cocaine cartels a virtual carte blanche to finance their operations," said Jeffrey Sloman, the federal prosecutor. Yet the total fine was less than 2% of the bank's $12.3bn profit for 2009. On 24 March 2010, Wells Fargo stock traded at $30.86 – up 1% on the week of the court settlement."
"The conclusion to the case was only the tip of an iceberg, demonstrating the role of the "legal" banking sector in swilling hundreds of billions of dollars – the blood money from the murderous drug trade in Mexico and other places in the world – around their global operations, now bailed out by the taxpayer."
Do you honestly think all these Government Regulations are helping the little guy? May have started out that way, but that concept has been long ago devoured and spit out by the never satiated appetites of the power hungry government and corporations working together to keep us stupid and poor.
Oh, here we go with the standard, "but EU conservatives aren't the same as US conservatives" meme. Who cares? Doesn't matter in the scheme of socialist/liberal policies being REJECTED worldwide.
The POINT is the socialists/liberals thrown out AGAIN on their derrieres while a more CONSERVATIVE party takes over.
Who said this?
The federal government doesn't need to be involved, that's the point.
The Social Democrats won the election, the SocialistParty came in second and only then came the Conservatives. The more you post, the more is becomes clear you have no clue.
No, that is the problem with the OP. She thinks she knows better about e.g. Germany's politics than German members on this board (like me). She is not here to learn anything about other countries. Just like Sarah Palin, she will never admit that she might be wrong.
Their ace is that most Americans don't have a clue what's happening outside the US. Many probably couldn't even find the 'country of Europe' on a world map.
Their ace is that most Americans don't have a clue what's happening outside the US. Many probably couldn't even find the 'country of Europe' on a world map.
Thanks to the Federal Dept. of Indoctrication and their deliberate dumbing down of America.
Speaking of which, I highly recommend:
"The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America," by Charlotte Iserbyt
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.
Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
