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Old 06-06-2011, 07:10 PM
 
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Well the boomers are "spent" and have to worry about retirement and aging now. Their free spending days are coming to a close as they turn 65 starting this year.
What brought us to this sorry pass is a perfect hybridization of big bank deregulators rpugs and vote whoren demorats.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Got something against unions, high pay and good benefits?
States are free to do what they want.
I'll just live elsewhere where unions don't rule because I want to work without having to join a union. If the job's working conditions are crappy I'll just go elsewhere. I've gotten high pay and good benefits using my degree to get a job. 23 years as a systems programmer..yeah I did OK without unions.

And yes, I guess I do have "something" against unions.
My father got put on graveyard shift in another state when he crossed a picket line to work because he had 5 kids and a wife that didn't work. Food needed to be put on the table.

When the strike was over he went from first shift at Penn Station to third shift in some forgotten yard in Philly which he did for 5 years until he retired.

The union ALWAYS gets revenge against their workers.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:16 PM
 
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I wonder if Obama would bail out the fast food industry? Another billion dollars of stimulus will buy a LOT of hamburgers.....
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:27 PM
 
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I know the Right isn't complaining about these McJobs.
Yes we are. I do not want an environment in the US for my children in which the average worker makes minimum wage. It would be best for them to then leave the country and seek other nations in which there are better opportunities- kind of an American Dream in reverse.
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:38 PM
 
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Yes we are. I do not want an environment in the US for my children in which the average worker makes minimum wage. It would be best for them to then leave the country and seek other nations in which there are better opportunities- kind of an American Dream in reverse.
As it goes, I'll be glad with the change.

It'll be that much easier for people like me to exploit the low expectation lefties!
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Old 06-06-2011, 07:40 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Sure. Open a car manufacturing company and hire folks, union of course, and give them good pay and benefits. If money is tight just restructure your debt and shrug off investors to save the employees.

Oh wait..he did do that !
Oh you funny humourous person you! Yep already happened, did he do that!
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Old 06-06-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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Got something against unions, high pay and good benefits?
When such arrangements are forced on employers under threat of violence and backed by the biggest bully of all the federal government, I do.
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Old 06-07-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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I wonder if Obama would bail out the fast food industry? Another billion dollars of stimulus will buy a LOT of hamburgers.....
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Old 06-07-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Sure. Open a car manufacturing company and hire folks, union of course, and give them good pay and benefits. If money is tight just restructure your debt and shrug off investors to save the employees.

Oh wait..he did do that !
Heck, not even McDonalds' was hiring before Obama took office, or so you believe?
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Old 06-07-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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States are free to do what they want.
I'll just live elsewhere where unions don't rule because I want to work without having to join a union. If the job's working conditions are crappy I'll just go elsewhere. I've gotten high pay and good benefits using my degree to get a job. 23 years as a systems programmer..yeah I did OK without unions.

And yes, I guess I do have "something" against unions.
My father got put on graveyard shift in another state when he crossed a picket line to work because he had 5 kids and a wife that didn't work. Food needed to be put on the table.

When the strike was over he went from first shift at Penn Station to third shift in some forgotten yard in Philly which he did for 5 years until he retired.

The union ALWAYS gets revenge against their workers.
Your dad could've done just what you said you'd do.....find another job somewhere else if working under union conditions was so bad. Obviously, he had no problem with it since he decided to stay long enough to not only retire, but work for 5 years while being mistreated.

If you cross picket lines, you get what you get.

As for you doing ok without joining a union, good for you. Most people have to get by without joining a union, so that's no big deal. But i'm not going to begrudge the people with the good sense to fight for good wages and benefits.
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