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Old 02-22-2012, 06:30 AM
 
Location: North America
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If a female doesn't want the responsibility/financial stress that goes along with parenthood, she can get an abortion and never look back. Even if the male wants to keep the baby, the female has the power to get an abortion.

So why do the males get no say? If a female can just walk away from the responsibility if she doesn't want a baby, a male should be able to do the same thing.

If the female wants to keep the baby but the male doesn't, the male gets stuck paying child support.

In both examples, one parent wants to keep the baby. So why does the male get stuck paying for a baby he doesn't want?

Of course the male can't get an abortion. But I don't think the male should need to pay child support for a baby he doesn't want.

Sure, you might be thinking "The male helped create the baby. If the female wants to keep it, the male should pay"

But it takes two to tango. Both parents played an equal role in creating the baby. So if the male can't force the female to pay, why should the female be able to force the male to pay?

By the way, I am pro-choice. I support abortion and I don't see anything wrong with a female getting an abortion if she doesn't want to pay for a baby. But if a male doesn't want to pay for a baby, he shouldn't need to either.

Unfortunately, a lot of males do not want the baby either, they leave it to the woman to choose.
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Old 02-22-2012, 07:06 AM
 
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You are arguing out both sides of your mouth here.
Please explain so I can clarify my position.

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Also, I wasn't lumping anyone together-- I was speaking about a specific type of male who seems to want to place all the responsibility on the mother.
Ok, well you didn't write you what you meant initially. Either way, I accept that as your position.

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In any case, I think you just like to be contrary, so, yeah, go find someone else to "correct" with your semantic games.
Ok, have a nice day.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Armsanta Sorad
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That's why I watch shows like Maury and Steve. When I hear "You are not that father", I'm amused. The men are free to move on with their lives, not dealing with stress which is heavily associated with parenthood.
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Old 02-23-2012, 07:52 PM
 
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"Why do the males get no say?"

As the conservatives say (and I don't disagree) your first opportunity to have your say is right before you, shall we say, dip your wicket.
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