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But saying that its wrong to make a woman choose to carry a child she doesn't want for 9 months, then its wrong to make a man work 18 years for a child he doesn't want also. Both are assaults on the body for things that the individual does not want.
Nope.
Once the child is here it is no longer about you or her. It is about the child. You keep applying the old framework to a new situation.
Nobody cares what either of you "wanted" once there is a child to be provided for. It is in the best interest of the child (and society) if the parents do what they have to do to provide for that child. If you don't want to be there physically, then you have to at least pay the money. If a woman doesn't want to care for her child, she will get arrested for neglect. If she walks away, she can be sued for child support as well. The state only wants to step in when it has to, and it will make it very difficult for either party to completely walk away without repercussions.
No. Absolutely not. ONLY a woman can intentionally get pregnant. A man can not force pregnancy on a woman. Condoms are not effective enough and are subject to sabotage. Women should not be in a position to force fatherhood on any man, it's even uglier that the woman can force fatherhood on a man AND force him to pay child support. Sure, he should keep it in his pants, but she should keep her knees together. He is no more culpable than she is.
Once the child is here it is no longer about you or her. It is about the child. You keep applying the old framework to a new situation.
Nobody cares what either of you "wanted" once there is a child to be provided for. It is in the best interest of the child (and society) if the parents do what they have to do to provide for that child. If you don't want to be there physically, then you have to at least pay the money. If a woman doesn't want to care for her child, she will get arrested for neglect. If she walks away, she can be sued for child support as well. The state only wants to step in when it has to, and it will make it very difficult for either party to completely walk away without repercussions.
The "It's not fair" meme ends at birth.
...or at conception, depending on which side of the abortion argument you're on.
no they are not cry babies nor unmanly. they are waking up. they are taking back their power.
know your rights men, marriage is a relinquishment of many of your american citizen rights. nothing u can do about parental rights re abortion but u can do a great deal about your financial rights by not marrying w/o a prenup. nothing unmanly about keeping your wages, pension, and property and being free from the debts u did not make. nothing manly about selling yourself into slavery.
terminate the insanity, no marriage w/o prenup . no more rip off. women love getting married but not being married. 42 million divorces since 1975 (no fault) 70% filed by women, current divorce rate is 67% dont be one of them, dont marry w/o a prenup.
So I'm a "what" now, and not a "who"? Tsk, tsk. Doth we condescend?
Hardly.
Someone, it might have been me, asked you last night if you were a man.
You said yes.
That told me who you were.
Everything that you have said this evening has told me what you are.
I have argued the same point. Usually the same women who fight for a womans right to choose abortion, which I support, generally don't support a mans right to choose to walk away also.
I think there should be a "first trimester" period of choice, unless the woman in question purposely keeps the knowledge of her pregnancy from the father, then he should have a month or so to decide.
But saying that its wrong to make a woman choose to carry a child she doesn't want for 9 months, then its wrong to make a man work 18 years for a child he doesn't want also. Both are assaults on the body for things that the individual does not want.
Other posters have said this, but it bears repeating.
Once the child is born, it's no longer about the man or woman, it's about the child, who will need to be cared for until she can care for herself, which in this country is defined as age 18. Parents, if they can be identified, pay for the care of their child, whether male or female, because according to DNA, that child is theirs.
The responsibility for human reproduction is not equally distributed between the sexes. The person with the greater responsibility has the greater say - that would be the woman. Whoever possesses the uterus gets to make all of the decisions re the pregnancy.
Supporting a child for 18 years is an assault on your body that is equivalent to 9 months of being pregnant and then giving birth?? Talk about not know what you're talking about....
no they are not cry babies nor unmanly. they are waking up. they are taking back their power.
know your rights men, marriage is a relinquishment of many of your american rights. nothing u can do about parental rights re abortion but u can do a great deal about your financial rights by not marrying. nothing unmanly about keeping your wages, pension, and property and being free from the debts of anyone else. nothing manly about selling yourself into slavery.
Straight up, dude. Americans need normal men in positions of power, not these male lackeys of feminism.
Other posters have said this, but it bears repeating.
Once the child is born, it's no longer about the man or woman, it's about the child, who will need to be cared for until she can care for herself, which in this country is defined as age 18. Parents, if they can be identified, pay for the care of their child, whether male or female, because according to DNA, that child is theirs.
The responsibility for human reproduction is not equally distributed between the sexes. The person with the greater responsibility has the greater say - that would be the woman. Whoever possesses the uterus gets to make all of the decisions re the pregnancy.
Supporting a child for 18 years is an assault on your body that is equivalent to 9 months of being pregnant and then giving birth?? Talk about not know what you're talking about....
A woman, with no man interested in the child, at 9 months can decide to place her child up for adoption
A woman, with no man interested in the child, at 9 months can decide to place her child up for adoption
Therefore, the child is still taken care of.
That would be best.
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