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But I actually do agree with you. Corn is selling for $7/bushel right now. They don't need subsidies to help them buy crop insurance. I'd do away with that.
But if the fields flood out or burned down (which many have) then they need that crop insurance to replant.
As it is currently many are waiting on a government man to come out and survey the fields before giving the OK for payment. They cannot till under or replant until they get the OK and it's getting way late in the season to try to get another crop in the ground. In other cases they are missing required dates for insurance coverage.
Here's one about flood:
Daily Standard Stories
Crop insurance policies require that cover crops be killed by May 15. That didn't happen this year.
Wet fields have made it impossible for farmers to get into the fields at all, Hoorman said.
Private crop insurance agents are telling farmers that if their cover crops were not terminated by the deadline, they are no longer insured for corn, or soybeans planted instead of corn. Also, if farmers can't plant corn or soybeans at all due to wet weather, they will not be insured for prevented planting payments because of the existence of a mature cover crop.
But if the fields flood out or burned down (which many have) then they need that crop insurance to replant.
As it is currently many are waiting on a government man to come out and survey the fields before giving the OK for payment. They cannot till under or replant until they get the OK and it's getting way late in the season to try to get another crop in the ground. In other cases they are missing required dates for insurance coverage.
Here's one about flood:
Daily Standard Stories
Crop insurance policies require that cover crops be killed by May 15. That didn't happen this year.
Wet fields have made it impossible for farmers to get into the fields at all, Hoorman said.
Private crop insurance agents are telling farmers that if their cover crops were not terminated by the deadline, they are no longer insured for corn, or soybeans planted instead of corn. Also, if farmers can't plant corn or soybeans at all due to wet weather, they will not be insured for prevented planting payments because of the existence of a mature cover crop.
The farmers I talked to (as well as a guy with Farm Credit) all agree that crop insurance is a good thing--and they buy it. But at $7/bushel corn they make $400/acre. For a 1000 acre farm, they clear $400k. For that, they don't need subsidies. Last year they made a good profit, too...at about $3/bushel.
20 years ago I can see maybe...but they just don't need it now.
The farmers I talked to (as well as a guy with Farm Credit) all agree that crop insurance is a good thing--and they buy it. But at $7/bushel corn they make $400/acre. For a 1000 acre farm, they clear $400k. For that, they don't need subsidies. Last year they made a good profit, too...at about $3/bushel.
20 years ago I can see maybe...but they just don't need it now.
I think this thread started out talking about EPA foolishness concerning farm dust. Some don't have any idea how much dust must cutting any kind of grain raises. The grain is dusty from sitting there and then must be very dry to sell it. I am sure that many here don't know that at all. I am also sure that some here don't know how much dust gets raised when rural people drive on dirt or gravel roads and how many of that kind of roads they have to drive on.
The main problem these farmers are having is dealing with bureaucrats who don't have any experience in running businesses, which farming surely is, and they don't know much about anything else to do with farming.
How close did we get a couple of years ago to not having any beef to eat because those critters eat and later belch up their cud and eat again. They also fart a lot and the EPA was considering charging a ridiculous charge to anyone who raised cattle and the feed lots would have gone broke if those fools had enforced that considered rule.
It is past time for having Congress pass laws to do with these things and letting the EPA enforce those rules, not having the bureaucrats from EPA make the rules.
Every stop, when asked what they worry about in the future, all 3 farmers (a hog farmer, dairy farmer, and grain farmer) and the feed store guy all told me government regulations were their main worry.
For example, the feed store owner said that to store his 1000 gallons of molasses, he had to build a berm around it so it couldn't spread if it spilled. it's sugar. You can eat the stuff. But the EPA says it's dangerous. The dairy farmer actually said the same thing. Initially, because milk has fat, it was classified as an "oil" and the same law applied. It was then lifted this year before it got enforced.
The dairy farmer said they have to spend $500,000 to get compliant. He can't do that, and is only currently 80% compliant. He's hoping to get there eventually.
They all agree that government regulators are just idiotic, and don't use common sense. And there are people that think we need to put them in charge of our health care?
It appears some people agree with you. A lot of government regulations are in the process of being streamlined or eliminated.
On the same day that President Barack Obama chided regulatory agencies like the Food and Drug Administration for developing regulations that interfere "with the pursuit of progress and the growth of our economy," PriceWaterhouseCoopers (PwC) published a report that found emerging markets led by China, India, and Brazil are chipping away at America's lead in medical technology innovation, in part, because the FDA's 510 (k) medical device approval program is cumbersome and costly.
In an article he penned for Tuesday's Wall Street Journal, President Obama said the FDA will outline new efforts to improve the process for approving medical devices. The president also signed an executive order on Tuesday requiring federal agencies to ensure that regulations protect safety, health, and the environment while advancing economic growth.
Anand Iyer, president and chief operating officer of WellDoc, a telehealth company that recently received FDA 510 (k) clearance for its WellDoc DiabetesManager system, said the time has come for the FDA to develop a medical device approval program that demonstrates the balance of innovation and safety that the president seeks.
“President Obama has ordered government agencies to review federal regulations and eliminate the ones that don’t make sense… He called the system of federal regulations “a patchwork of overlapping rules†— and said it’s time to clean up the patchwork.
The president’s regulatory action looks forward, too. From now on, the public will have more opportunity to comment on proposed rules through the website regulations.gov. And there are new provisions for small businesses. Obama told agencies to be lenient with small-business regulations, giving extensions on deadlines or exemptions from rules when appropriate.
“We think it’s an important principle,†says Todd McCracken, president and CEO of the National Small Business Association, “that the federal government recognize that small companies operate differently, and a regulatory requirement that might make sense for an Exxon needs to be thought about in a different kind of way for an Exxon service station.â€
NGVAmerica, the trade association that represents the natural gas vehicle industry, applauded the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency's decision to streamline the requirements for certifying aftermarket systems that are used to convert vehicles to run on natural gas. The agency's action modifies regulations that have been in force for aftermarket conversions since April 2002 and that were adopted pursuant to the federal Clean Air Act.
The new regulations will make it less burdensome and less expensive for companies that offer vehicle conversion systems for many existing cars and trucks, says the group.
"EPA's decision is particularly important in the case of heavy-duty fleets, since currently, because of cost, there are no EPA approved conversion systems for diesel vehicles," says Richard Kolodziej, NGV president. "Because heavy-duty fleet vehicles are the biggest consumers of fuel, they have the greatest potential for by reducing the country's dependence on foreign oil in the near term."
How close did we get a couple of years ago to not having any beef to eat because those critters eat and later belch up their cud and eat again. They also fart a lot and the EPA was considering charging a ridiculous charge to anyone who raised cattle and the feed lots would have gone broke if those fools had enforced that considered rule.
It is past time for having Congress pass laws to do with these things and letting the EPA enforce those rules, not having the bureaucrats from EPA make the rules.
And when it was almost a done deal a study popped up showing that pasture raised cows (grass only with very little grain) on rotational grazing didn't fart as much as feedlot cows so only Big Ag would have been impacted.
*poof*....cow farts will NOT destroy the planet as previously thought.
That one backfired on Big Ag.
Every stop, when asked what they worry about in the future, all 3 farmers (a hog farmer, dairy farmer, and grain farmer) and the feed store guy all told me government regulations were their main worry.
For example, the feed store owner said that to store his 1000 gallons of molasses, he had to build a berm around it so it couldn't spread if it spilled. it's sugar. You can eat the stuff. But the EPA says it's dangerous. The dairy farmer actually said the same thing. Initially, because milk has fat, it was classified as an "oil" and the same law applied. It was then lifted this year before it got enforced.
The dairy farmer said they have to spend $500,000 to get compliant. He can't do that, and is only currently 80% compliant. He's hoping to get there eventually.
They all agree that government regulators are just idiotic, and don't use common sense. And there are people that think we need to put them in charge of our health care?
Feel free to return your "Socialist farming subsidies" that allowed you to buy those two F-350s anytime you want to.
You are so clueless on the topic. The farm subsidies end up hurting farmers in the long run. If they were helpful the average farmer would be rich instead of the spouse driving to town to hold down a job for the insurance benefits.
If you want to find fault look at the way the subsidies were created to reward the large corporate farmers rather than the small independent family farmer.
Please take away the subsidies. Along with eliminate those bureaucracies which dictate how a farmer must use his land, eliminate the price fixing on product that artificially holds down the price of food in the USA. Eliminate the power of Monsanto and Bayer A.G. so that we have seed diversity once again and so farmers can save seeds from one harvest to the plant the next spring without worry of ending up in jail and losing their farms to fines. Bann the dangerous GMOs that are poisoning our bodies, wiping out the beneficial pollinators, and destroying our plant diversity.
Seriously, get off your soapbox about subsidies until you tackle the really big ones first ......the corporate oligarchy, unions, military industrial complex, and social entitlements for 48% of the populaiton!
Thats the dumbest damn thing I have read in quite awhile.
Wonder what the EPA proposes to do about particulate matter from say, volcanoes in Iceland, or will they be exempt?
Please, don't give them any ideas.
They're bureaucrats, common sense has nothing to do with keeping the bureau running.
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