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Step one is to remove the idea that all students have a "right" to be there.
eh?
If anyone has a right to be there it's the students.
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I think kids that have proven over the years that they have no interest in learning and serve only to disrupt, have no business in the schools and we need to be allowed to remove such students....
Rather broad brush you're using there but I get your point anyway.
Dealing with the miscreants and disruptive one's is a different matter in any case.
Whether they behave or not the raw mass of them need to be somewhere that hopefully will keep them out of trouble in the late afternoons and over summers. When neither the parents or the neighbors are available or able or often even inclined to offer these daycare or summer camp counselor like activities and services... who gets pointed to as the solution to solve that problem?
My objection is when such gets masqueraded as education.
btw: If you had paid a bit more attention in school you might have learned how to make you point sooner, simpler and at all.
I don't think kids could last learning longer but they could have organized fun after school programs. That's exactly what one of my relatives is working on. He's outlined a program for kids after school. They would have programs that would give kids an opportunity at play in a healthy and fun way. Kids need play but this would deter them from turning to drugs/sex/crime.
I love education. It is the epitome of conservative hyocrisy.
On one hand, conservatives preach personal responsibility and family values.
On the other hand, conservatives are always first to blame teachers that struggle teaching children who come from homes where family values are non-existent and personal responsibility is not taught.
When it comes to education, conservatives blame teachers, administrators, the NEA, unions etc. They NEVER blame the parents of the students.
On the contrary, I think we give school children much less flexibility and accommodation than we even give adults in the workplace. In the workplace, adults can go to the bathroom whenever they need. They can even get a coffee when they want. Many companies even factor breaks into their contract.
Adults are allowed to choose the field they go into for work. At the college level, adults get to choose what they major in and which classes they take--at least for the most part.
Children aren't even allowed to go to the bathroom with the teacher's permission. I think if we accommodated children just a little bit more, we would produce much more successful future workers.
School children aren't allowed to choose their classes or teachers. They aren't allowed to choose which school they go to most of the time.
I'm not saying we give children all the privileges of the adult world, but accommodating their biological clock would only help, not harm. I think kids would be much more productive if their base needs (bathroom, biological clock) were met.
Been in a high school recently? You give kids carte blanche to go to the bathroom and you'll have 120 kids living in the hallways at any given time during the school day.... You can bank on that.
Anyway, do you want me to run down the exhaustive list of things that kids get away with in schools that would get them TERMINATED in the workforce?
eh?
If anyone has a right to be there it's the students.
Rather broad brush you're using there but I get your point anyway.
Dealing with the miscreants and disruptive one's is a different matter in any case.
Its a much too common matter... And these kids successfully ruin the learning environment quite often.
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Whether they behave or not the raw mass of them need to be somewhere that hopefully will keep them out of trouble in the late afternoons and over summers. When neither the parents or the neighbors are available or able or often even inclined to offer these daycare or summer camp counselor like activities and services... who gets pointed to as the solution to solve that problem?
My objection is when such gets masqueraded as education.
Certainly. My point is that this needs to be separated from the kids that actually ARE trying to learn something.
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btw: If you had paid a bit more attention in school you might have learned how to make you point sooner, simpler and at all.
And you probably would have learned better proofreading skills. Guess we all took the occasional nap.
9 to 5 won't cut it. I'm sure parents would rather 8-6 for the daycare services.
Serve breakfast, lunch, dinner and the parents only have to worry about getting them up in the morning and dressed and then home at night and into bed.
Have the teachers make them do their homework as well.
No more after school activities.
Heck, teachers don't need lives outside of schools..50+ hours a week at the school is nothing for them..right ? You plan to up their pay ?
FWIW behavior management is the biggest issue in schools today.
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