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Old 06-10-2011, 12:30 PM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Both of these posts for the win!
Glad you and I have similar views on constitutional reform. I will go as far as to state that Obama should be the last executive president. It would be a good transition point that would symbolize a new beginning.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Glad you and I have similar views on constitutional reform. I will go as far as to state that Obama should be the last executive president. It would be a good transition point that would symbolize a new beginning.
Agreed, but we'll probably have to have one more (probably a Republican) who will be such a complete and utter disaster as an executive.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Only can be done by amending the constitution to have a different voting system. First past the post defaults to a 2 party system. Voters are NOT being stupid -- they are just doing what this system naturally has them doing.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Only can be done by amending the constitution to have a different voting system. First past the post defaults to a 2 party system. Voters are NOT being stupid -- they are just doing what this system naturally has them doing.
FPP doesn't necessarily default to 2-party, but I agree that it needs to be done differently.

I support an Instant-Runoff Vote for 450/500 House Members (yes I support increasing the number), all Senate members, and the President.

For the remaining 50/500, I support a party list vote where a party will gain a member of the house for every 2% of the population that supports them.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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Conservatives and libertarians are basically the SAME thing. Liberals and "socialists" are always lumped together by conservatives/libertarians.
Um, no. Libertarians are not socially conservative. Traditional conservatives are.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Oh stop, what a silly thread. Virtually every third party candidate we have had has been a nut. Run a candidate who isn't crazy and a third party could win. Look at Joe Liberman.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:53 PM
 
Location: NC
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Oh stop, what a silly thread. Virtually every third party candidate we have had has been a nut. Run a candidate who isn't crazy and a third party could win. Look at Joe Liberman.
warmonger. no thanks.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:54 PM
 
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Well, I'm all for this.... The issue is about what happens in the "transitional" period...

Many of us are "lesser of two evils" voters right now. There's a fear if you stop voting for YOUR "lesser of two evils" party (whichever it may be) that the GREATER evil will win the election...

So we get caught in a circle of two-party voting....
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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warmonger. no thanks.
I didn't offer him up. I simply said, third party candidates who aren't nuts can win. Joe Liberman is an Independent.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:59 PM
 
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Oh stop, what a silly thread. Virtually every third party candidate we have had has been a nut. Run a candidate who isn't crazy and a third party could win. Look at Joe Liberman.
Actually, juppiter has it spot on - Google Duverger's law for a detailed explanation of why a system like the one in the US will default to two parties.
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