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Old 06-11-2011, 12:43 PM
 
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I'm confused, we're talking about the ghost that got Bin Laden or are you talking about the ghost that was there for 8 years and didn't get him.
#1, as expected, the liberal clueless try to deflect the thread onto Bush.

NEWSFLASH: Bush is out of office for over 2 years now....

#2, I was NOT a fan of Bush.

#3, the work that led to the liquidation of Bin Laden was initiated under Bush - using tactics his administration devised which Obama ran against - yet used when they were politically convenient and expedient to do so.

#4, even if Obama himself had flown over to Pakistan and shot Bin Laden HIMSELF - WTF CARES?

As a threat, Bin Laden is not on the same planet as the massive threat that is iran, both to our allies and to the US.

Bin Laden is window dressing; we see a president completely paralyzed with an inability to deal with the 2 greatest threats we face in the middle east: iran and syria.

If he can successfully destroy those regimes, then f--king come back to me and let's talk...
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Old 06-11-2011, 01:07 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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I'm pretty sure he's talking about the ghost who promised to close Gitmo

The ghost that started a war in Libya without congressional approval

The ghost that is attacking Yemen without congressional approval.

The ghost that promised to end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan but didn't.

The ghost who assured the country that unemployment wouldn't go higher if he spent a trillion dollars.

The only thing that ghost has actually accomplished is to block every possible chance at fixing the illegal immigration problem because he wants amnesty (votes) from/for the illegals.

That ghost.

And a ghost! who used the catch phrase HOPE AND CHANGE, to wheel in his sheeple! Wow this sure is some great hope and change, what a booming economy.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:01 PM
 
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We merely have a ghost, someone by name who pretends to be there. The "ghost" shows zero leadership, the economy is dreadful, domestic policy non-existent - and from there it gets worse.

The current sitting ghost has already lost any chance of obtaining my vote for his total failure to address the syrian genocide, after all - why are we in Libya dealing with a khadafi who had actually been much better behaved and shut down his nuclear weapons program, but we are allowing ass-ad to slaughter his citizenry? Syria policy: total failure.

But like I said - it gets worse. I nearly puked reading the Weekend Edition of the WSJ:

Review & Outlook: Iran Nuclear Progress Report - WSJ.com

Iran Nuclear Progress Report
Tehran gets closer to having a bomb. World wags finger.

"For six months, global attention has fixed on the historic upheavals roiling the Arab world from Tunisia to Bahrain. But the biggest Middle Eastern story continues to be the steady progress Tehran has made toward acquiring the components of a deliverable nuclear weapon. The most recent news is disquieting, to say the least.

On Thursday, the International Atomic Energy Agency "de-restricted" its most recent report on Iran's nuclear progress. Despite hopes that the 2009 Stuxnet computer virus had slowed or even crippled Tehran's efforts, the IAEA reports that in the last six months Tehran had enriched some 970 kilos of uranium to reactor-grade levels, or LEU, bringing its total stockpile of LEU to 4,105 kilos.

Iran has also enriched 56.7 kilos of uranium to a 20% level, ostensibly to produce medical isotopes but bringing it measurably closer to the 90% level needed for a bomb. Iran also announced this week that it will begin installing a more efficient type of centrifuge to enrich uranium at its once-secret facility near the city of Qom.

The IAEA devoted considerable space to what it calls the "possible military dimensions" of Iran's nuclear program, noting that "there are indications that certain [undisclosed nuclear related activities] may have continued beyond 2004." This further discredits the flawed and politicized 2007 U.S. National Intelligence Estimate that suggested Iran had halted its nuclear weaponization efforts after 2003. The authors of that estimate, which undermined Western efforts to stop Iran, have a lot to answer for.

Iran's suspected activities, says the IAEA, include "producing uranium metal . . . into components relevant to a nuclear device"; "multipoint explosive initiation and hemispherical detonation studies"; and "missile re-entry vehicle redesign activities for a new payload assessed as being nuclear in nature."

Perhaps there's an innocent explanation for all this, like Iran wanting to achieve technological independence in the manufacture of a new generation of refrigerators. And there will always be credulous Western reporters who will take Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's word that Iran's intentions are peaceful.

We wonder what those reporters think of an article that appeared in April on the website of the regime's Revolutionary Guards Corps and talks openly about the prospect of an Iranian nuclear test—a break from the usual Iranian policy of denying any interest in a bomb.

"The day after [the] Islamic Republic of Iran's first nuclear test will be an ordinary day for us Iranians but in the eyes of some of us there will be a new sparkle," reads the article. The author goes on to imagine that "the strength of the explosion was not so great as to cause severe damage to the region nor so weak that Iranian scientists face any problems running their test."

The day of that test may not be far off. In an analysis this month for the Nonproliferation Policy Education Center, Rand scholar Gregory S. Jones writes that even in the absence of a clandestine nuclear program, "Iran can now produce a weapon's worth (20 kilograms) of HEU [weapons-grade uranium] any time it wishes. With Iran's current number of operating centrifuges, the batch recycling process would take about two months."

Rand later issued a press release saying that Mr. Jones's analysis was not an official Rand study, which suggests to us how reluctant members of America's foreign policy elite are to hear the truth about Iran's ambitions. If we admit the danger, then we might have to do something about it before Iran becomes a nuclear power.

The Obama Administration has begun to take the nuclear threat from Iran more seriously after squandering a year in the fruitless pursuit of a negotiated settlement. The Administration also seems to have gotten wise to Iran's efforts to shape this Arab Spring to its own purposes, not least by backing the Assad regime in its repression of Syrians and providing support to radicals in Lebanon, Gaza and elsewhere.

Yet so far, neither American nor U.N. sanctions have been much of a brake on the mullahs' nuclear pursuits. If President Obama is serious when he says a nuclear Iran is "unacceptable," he'll need to do more than arrange another round of sanctions and wag a stern finger at a regime that's grown emboldened by the perception of American weakness."

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I ask all Americans of conscience and good will to demand that the "ghost" sitting in the White House take military action against both iran and syria, funded by drawing down the useless Afghan wars and reduction in troops/bases in Europe and South Korea.

The World will enter a Dark Age of horrific proportions if iran is allowed to achieve nuclear weapons capability, and the ghost's inaction on both iran and syria constitute a fundamental failing of his oath of office to protect the US.

This can NOT continue any longer.



I owe you a rep.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:04 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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We merely have a ghost, someone by name who pretends to be there. The "ghost" shows zero leadership, the economy is dreadful, domestic policy non-existent - and from there it gets worse.

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Having deleted the obvious clip and paste that you have been instructed to post, I can only add- and what about his birth certificate?
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:07 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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They do say, Dolly Madison roams the Rose Garden
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:21 PM
 
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I've still seen no evidence of anyone "getting" bin laden. Just some wild story about dumping his body into the ocean and a promise to provide DNA evidence which is still missing. Wives have all disappeared, compound conveniently not allowed to be searched, oh but his porn collection carried off by the seals to boot. After the chest pounding and multiple changing of stories the White House went and has been silent about it since the first few days. Oh but it's gotta be true because the great orator says so.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Wow, the most pathetic sign of desperation yet. Owned on the second post, sad.
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Old 06-11-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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Wow, the most pathetic sign of desperation yet. Owned on the second post, sad.
Provide any evidence other than the word of known liars. I want to believe but am more of the belief he was killed at tora bora and his body never recovered. I'm sure plenty of boys sent over to Egypt to be "questioned" have confirmed this.
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Provide any evidence other than the word of known liars. I want to believe but am more of the belief he was killed at tora bora and his body never recovered. I'm sure plenty of boys sent over to Egypt to be "questioned" have confirmed this.
Wow, gone with the gibbering madness route I see. What the ever living hell are you babbling about?

Seriously, take the tin foil hat off your eyes...it's affecting the coherence of your typing.
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Old 06-11-2011, 09:14 PM
 
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I'm confused, we're talking about the ghost that got Bin Laden or are you talking about the ghost that was there for 8 years and didn't get him.

Did this ghost invade Iraq on false premises? Say that we would be greeted as liberators? Think that Iraq oil would pay for the invasion?

Did a ghost have no plan once Iraq was conquered?

Did this ghost roll over and give a spy plane to China?

Did this ghost fail to do anything about the economic/real estate bubble that led to the collapse at the end of his Presidency?

Announce mission accomplished in 2003?

Etc, etc.

You nitpick Obama, but none of you right wing types take any ownership for your role in creating the current mess in this country. Save for healthcare reform and allowing gays to be open in the military, Obama has done largely what Bush was doing and what McCain would have done.

People would nitpick on the guy just because he's a Democrats are stupid.



I'm pretty sure he doesn't pretend to be there. Have a look at the gray hairs on his head. No leadership? He called for a covert attack into Pakistan on the odd chance that Bin Laden was there. That's pretty strong leadership. The economy isn't controlled that much by the president. He's done what he can and there's not much more that a president can do. Non-existent domestic policy? The last time I checked, there was some pretty sweeping healthcare overhaul. Like that law or not, I'd say that was pretty existent. Add to that the stimulus package, cash for clunkers, keeping the American auto industry alive, etc, are all domestic.

Go ahead and criticize the guy, but please pull your head of our your rectum first and actually say something that is accurate.
Cash for clunkers, the stimulus, did what? That's right, nothing. Ford did and continues to do just fine without tax payer money. GMC, got bailed out, makes ton of money, and a big profit, and are they paying us back? Right
Nothing Obama has done is working. I'd say that is pretty accurate.
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