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Old 06-11-2011, 07:35 PM
 
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After all the rich pay plenty of other taxes: sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline taxes, payroll taxes, social security taxes, state and local income taxes, luxury taxes, etc, and they pay way more of those taxes than any poor and middle income people. So if they already pay all of these taxes, why should they pay any federal income taxes if the poor don't have to? Discuss.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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For me... everyone should have some "skin in the game"... I hate it when people with no "skin in the game" are the ones who wants to make the decisions... those decisions end up being self-serving... wow, will wonders never cease...
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:39 PM
 
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After all the rich pay plenty of other taxes: sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline taxes, payroll taxes, social security taxes, state and local income taxes, luxury taxes, etc, and they pay way more of those taxes than any poor and middle income people. So if they already pay all of these taxes, why should they pay any federal income taxes if the poor don't have to? Discuss.
By your reasoning why should the rich have their payroll taxes capped over a certain Dollar amount when the poor's paychecks are fully subject to the tax?

And you do know payroll tax brings in almost as much money as income tax right?
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:41 PM
 
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By your reasoning why should the rich have their payroll taxes capped over a certain Dollar amount when the poor's paychecks are fully subject to the tax?

And you do know payroll tax brings in almost as much money as income tax right?
Are you suggesting that we all have a FLAT TAX on income then? And then all paychecks are subject to payroll taxes without limit (and scaled appropriately for SS/Medicare reimbursements)... is that what you are suggesting? Didn't think so... I wonder why bring it up when you don't walk the talk...
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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Not again...
The progressive tax system tries to consider the fact that not all members of society are equally successful and/or wealthy.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:42 PM
 
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Oh, those poor people not paying any income tax! Those lucky duckies!

http://www.2000revue.com/community/uploads/1771//lucky%20ducky.gif (broken link)
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:45 PM
 
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That's a funny cartoon... and its just that... a cartoon...
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: South Carolina
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After all the rich pay plenty of other taxes: sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline taxes, payroll taxes, social security taxes, state and local income taxes, luxury taxes, etc, and they pay way more of those taxes than any poor and middle income people. So if they already pay all of these taxes, why should they pay any federal income taxes if the poor don't have to? Discuss.
Thats right the poor should be punished for being poor, Why cant they just be rich. The only poor that should not only pay the most taxes but should also live a misrable peasant life are republican voting southerners.
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:45 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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After all the rich pay plenty of other taxes: sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline taxes, payroll taxes, social security taxes, state and local income taxes, luxury taxes, etc, and they pay way more of those taxes than any poor and middle income people. So if they already pay all of these taxes, why should they pay any federal income taxes if the poor don't have to? Discuss.
Who pays into the Wage Tax, certainly not the rich
Remove the cap from the wage tax and we'll talk
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Old 06-11-2011, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Thumbs down huh?

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After all the rich pay plenty of other taxes: sales taxes, property taxes, gasoline taxes, payroll taxes, social security taxes, state and local income taxes, luxury taxes, etc, and they pay way more of those taxes than any poor and middle income people. So if they already pay all of these taxes, why should they pay any federal income taxes if the poor don't have to? Discuss.

bleh...

The poor pay plenty of taxes as we all do, where have you been?

Accounts Receivable Tax

Accumulated Earnings Tax
Ad Valorem Tax (includes duties on imported items), also see Property tax

Alternative Minimum Tax

Aviation Fuel Tax

Capital Gains Tax

Cement and Gypsum Producers License Tax

Cigarette Tax

Coal Severance Tax

Coal Gross Proceeds Tax

Consumer Counsel Tax

Consumption Tax

Corporate Income Tax

Corporation License Tax

Court Fines (revenue from many activities)

Customs Duty

Dog License Tax

Double Tax

Electrical Energy Producers Tax

Estate Tax, Inheritance

Federal Income Tax

Federal Unemployment Tax

Fishing License Tax

Food Service License Tax

Fuel Permit License Tax

Gas Guzzler Tax

Gasoline Tax (8 to 35 cents per gallon) Per tank?

Generation-skipping Transfer Tax

Gift Tax

Gross Production Tax

Hospital Facility Utilization Fee Tax

Hunting License Fee Tax

Inheritance Tax, see Estate Tax

Inventory Tax

IRS Interest Charges

IRS Penalties Tax

Kiddie Tax

Land Value Tax

Liquor License Tax

Liquor Tax

Local Tax

Lodging Facility Use Tax

Luxury Tax

Marriage License Tax

Medicare Tax

Metal Mines Gross Proceeds Tax

Metal Mines License Tax

Miscellaneous Mineral Mines License Tax

Miscellaneous Mines Net Proceeds Tax

Nursing Facility Bed Tax

Oil and Natural Gas Production Tax

Parking Meter Tax

Payroll Tax

Professional PrivilegeTax

Property Tax

Proxy Tax

Public Contractor's Gross Receipts Tax

Public Service Commission Tax

Public Utility Tax

Real Estate Tax

Real Estate Transfer Tax

Rental Vehicle Sales Tax

Resort Tax

Resource Indemnity and Groundwater Assessment Tax

Retail Telecommunications Excise Tax

Sales Tax

School Tax

Self-Employment Tax

Septic Permit Tax

Severance Tax

Social Security Tax

State Income Tax

State Unemployment Tax

Statewide Emergency Telephone 911 System Fee Tax

Surtax Tax - Extra tax.

Tariffs - A tax on imports. Needed to protect all the industries we used to have.


Telephone Federal Excise Tax

Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax
Since May of 1997, "This helps provide affordable phone service and gives schools, libraries, and rural healthcare providers access to the Internet."

Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax

TDD Telecommunications Service Fee Tax

Tobacco Products Tax (Other than Cigarettes)

Toll Road Fee Tax

Toll Bridge Fee Tax

Toll Tunnel Fee Tax

Tonnage Tax

Traffic Fines

Trailer Registration Fee Tax

Use Tax

Utility Tax, see Public Utility Tax

Vehicle Registration and License Tax

Vehicle Sales Tax

Watercraft Registration Tax

Well Permit Tax

Wholesale Energy Transaction Tax

Workers Compensation Tax
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