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Old 06-13-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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That was not what I was arguing.

How about instead of voting for lesser evils election after election we finally have leaders we can trust, respect and be proud of?
We had that option last time and we passed. People can be had by a salesman. Once.
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Old 06-13-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Outside of wanting low taxes and a lower deficit it seems Brit and American conservatives do not have much in common.
The deficit in the USA is a moral problem ? now that is different from the Commonwealth approach.

The Margaret Thatcher-Sarah Palin snub exposes the growing gulf between British and American conservatives – Telegraph Blogs
its the same as the european liberals and american liberals...very little in common

american liberals are the same progressives that gave the world hitler and mussolini
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Blankity-blank!
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American conservatives and the Taliban have much in common.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:35 PM
 
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American conservatives and the Taliban have much in common.
A Bit of Hyperbole but the bible thumpers in Dixie and the heartland make a case.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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I don't know...Daniel Hannan (member of the European Parliament - Conservative Party - for 11 years) seems to think exactly like me:

"My guess is that, if anything, Obama would verbalize his ideology using the same vocabulary that Eurocrats do. He would say he wants a fairer America, a more tolerant America, a less arrogant America, a more engaged America. When you prize away the cliché, what these phrases amount to are higher taxes, less patriotism, a bigger role for state bureaucracies, and a transfer of sovereignty to global institutions. He is not pursuing a set of random initiatives but a program of comprehensive Europeanization: European health care, European welfare, European carbon taxes, European day care, European college education, even a European foreign policy, based on engagement with supranational technocracies, nuclear disarmament and a reluctance to deploy forces overseas."

Daniel Hannan: A European's Warning to America - WSJ.com

Who could forget his hit YouTube attack in Parliament on Gordon Brown:

"You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt. And when you repeat, in that wooden and perfunctory way, that our situation is better than others', that we are well placed to weather the storm, I have to tell you, you sound like a Brezhnev-era apparatchik giving the party line. You know, and we know, and you know that we know that it's nonsense. Everyone knows that Britain is worse off than any other country as we go into these hard times. The IMF has said so. The European Commission has said so. The markets have said so, which is why our currency has devalued by thirty percent. And soon, the voters too will get their chance to say so. They can see what the markets have already seen: that you are the devalued Prime Minister of a devalued government.[22]

Daniel Hannan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I have his book, "The New Road to Serfdom: A Letter of Warning to America" If Daniel Hannan was an American and running for President of the USA, he'd have my vote.
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Old 06-13-2011, 01:55 PM
 
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Pretty much all conservatives outside of the US are to the left of Bernie Sanders. The only thing that comes close to American conservatives is facists in 3rd world countries.
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Old 06-13-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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I'm not sure why Thatcher would meet with Palin. Meet with her about what? Palin isn't an elected official anymore. She's not a political "thinker" whose writings you can delve into and learn things from. So... what would be the point of a meeting?
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Old 06-14-2011, 02:01 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Pretty much all conservatives outside of the US are to the left of Bernie Sanders. The only thing that comes close to American conservatives is facists in 3rd world countries.
Canadian conservatives are pretty similar to American conservatives.

While there have been times when US and UK conservatives were similar, now is not one of them. The current Tory party is a US context is not to the left of Bernie Sanders ; it is essentially centrist, conservative on economic issues but socially liberal (Cameron on social issues is more liberal than Gordon Brown was). Most Tories in the UK would be centrist Democrats or "RINOs" in the US. Conversely, a Scott Brown, an Arnold Schwarzenegger, or a Susan Collins would fit into the UK Conservatives very well - and maybe McCain could find a place as a Tory - but someone like Bachmann, Palin, Santorum, Perry, etc. would be in one of the tiny far right parties.
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