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Old 06-13-2011, 08:53 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I have a further example of a "Veteran's" viewpoint. My FIL was RCAF who was then 'ceded' to the RAF upon hi arrival 'in theater' during WWII to then fly 67 missions as a 'tail gunner' in Lancasters and Liberator's. He sustained a knee injury that plagued him all of his adult life (limp and pain) from a crash landing upon returning from one of those missions.

He was actually contacted here in Canada in the late 80's by RAF officials reviewing wartime records querying the extent of his disability with a view to providing a small pension if he had proof of any ongoing malaise from that injury. His answer: "it did not prevent me from making a good living at "design engineering" so I do not consider myself to have been disabled." His doctors could have easily provided whatever proof was required but he wanted no part of that.

Of course this would be different from those vets who've suffered a drastic 'quality of life' reduction from a service related accident. Shouldn't it be conducive to that degree of severity?
I'm in a similar situation and feel he should have gone through the system. I injured my shoulder on the ship trying to get our generators started. Began failing the fitness test and was forced out. I'm in the VA system for my shoulder now but I'm not seeking treatment for it,...yet. Doctors have told me it's too early for surgery. Surgery could be worse than it is now but they all agree it will get progressively worse to the point that surgery is required. The injury happened in 1995 and the grinding in my shoulder is worse and I can barely move my arm to my back.
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Old 06-13-2011, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Engaging in war is more than driving a car where you can apply brakes and stop.
Really? Congressional Democrats did it pretty well with Vietnam. I think they're hesitant to do it again continuing the belief they are the cut and run party.
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Old 06-13-2011, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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Well that's a mighty fine thing, you having a job and all, of course that does nothing for the hundreds of thousands of Vets who don't.
I feel no sympathy for them if the reason for them not having a job is drug and or alcohol addiction and didnt seek help for their addictions. I got and kept my job thanks to my Navy training. It's not a great paying job but it's steady work and have been there for 11 1/2 years now.
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Old 06-13-2011, 10:20 PM
 
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I couldn't open the linked article. Some vets don't need to be on the VA. I am on the VA because of my shoulder injury but I don't use the VA. Instead, I choose to use my employee's health insurance. If my shoulder gets worse I may use the VA or I may choose to use my insurance. I'll decide that when the time comes. My father-in-law uses the VA and he's 85. My personal opinion is the VA should be used by those with a service connected injury, service connected mental problem, or the retired or elderly.
My father-in-law (age 88) also uses the VA, and has had several health problems in the last few years that they have dealt with admirably. Do they split the costs between VA, Medicare, and medigap? I never asked him.

Anyway, he was a bombardier in WWII, and was shot down in Germany. After 18 months in a POW camp, they were freed. May have been by the Russians, but I'm not clear on that detail. I figure he deserves to use the VA.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:32 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm not sure why or how they are recieving any treatment if they are 0% and not service connected?

You must be 0% service connected to recieve treatment and that must be for your disability....nothing else....you cannot go in with a cold....and expect to be...
No.

Any eligible Veteran may use the VA Health Care System.

It is NOT free.

If you are 0% Service-connected or not service connected your insurance company is billed just as surely as if you had gone to a private or public hospital.

If you are receiving Medicare or Medicaid benefits, then Medicare and Medicaid are billed just as though you had gone to a private or public hospital.

VA Health Care System is more cost-effective and a better bargain than private or public health care. Those Veterans who are on Medicare or Medicaid and are using the VA System are saving tax payers money by not using the more expensive private and public systems. Those Veterans who are privately insured are saving their insurance companies money.

If the Veteran has neither private insurance nor Medicare/Medicaid, then the Veteran is billed in the exactly the same way a private or public hospital bills them.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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I am a Vietnam Veteran. If you consider part of my personality is a completely insane whack job that enjoys a close range gunfight, then I guess I have PTSD. Fortunately the rest of my personality keeps the nut cake very well suppressed without any aid from the VA.

I am not surprised that the Republicans want to cut VA benefits that might help veterans but are completely unwilling to end the wars that create the physically or psychologically damaged veterans they want to harm. No surprise at all.
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Really? Congressional Democrats did it pretty well with Vietnam. I think they're hesitant to do it again continuing the belief they are the cut and run party.
Did they have a choice? Were you upset about it?
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Old 06-14-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: NJ
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So tell me, if every crime needs a motive, why would the Republicans want to kick the vets off health care?

If depriving vets of healthcare was their intention, how could they expect to win the votes of the electorate assuming they wish to proliferate politically?

Perhaps the sensational headline posted in the OP is somewhat misleading?
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Old 06-14-2011, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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So tell me, if every crime needs a motive, why would the Republicans want to kick the vets off health care?
Because they are now, mostly, useless.
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Old 06-14-2011, 10:23 AM
 
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Seems the repubs want to kick every one off healthcare and privatize it completely.
Cant afford it? cant get insured? tough luck,
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