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Old 06-14-2011, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Right, back to the topic. I wouldn't call Cain an Uncle Tom just because he wouldn't deliever pizzas to a certain area. I would call him a person who doesn't live up to the universal business practice of serving those who are willing to pay for his services.

Calling a black man an Uncle Tom would come from something a lot more serious. Not refusing to sell pizzas to certain neighborhoods isn't as bad as, say, locking up several INNOCENT blacks only to boost your resume as a politician.
Glad we could have a mature level of discourse.

I would call him smart to avoid lawsuits from employees who would claim he's endangering their safety. That, and he genuinely cares for his employees' safety. Good PR and helps bring in more prospective employees. Herman Cain is pro-worker!
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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This day and age, sorry, best be safe then sorry, see no problem with it, although, i'm more then sure, something will be made about nothing. Too many things happening today, and delivery guys, have been killed, and robbed, nothing wrong with the decision.

This is racist, how ignorant, and if one of the delievery guys were killed and he were a different race from the rest of the city, would this be considered racist still!

Sorry charlie, better safe then sorry.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:12 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Glad we could have a mature level of discourse.

I would call him smart to avoid lawsuits from employees who would claim he's endangering their safety. That, and he genuinely cares for his employees' safety. Good PR and helps bring in more prospective employees. Herman Cain is pro-worker!
The way I see it, lawsuits could come frome ANYWHERE. You could get lawsuits from those who are living in those neighborhoods. This is America, after all. We have people who sue because 'McDonnald's made them fat'....
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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The way I see it, lawsuits could come frome ANYWHERE. You could get lawsuits from those who are living in those neighborhoods. This is America, after all. We have people who sue because 'McDonnald's made them fat'....
Then it's settled. Since Cain isn't doing it out of minimizing a risk as you're suggesting, he genuinely cares for the safety of his employees and wants them to be safe, as a safe employee is a productive one, whereas a politically correct person wanting to universally deliver intentionally puts his employees in jeopardy and is anti-worker. God Bless Herman Cain!

It was a pleasure debating with you kind sir.
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Old 06-14-2011, 11:32 AM
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Location: Fort Worth
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Then it's settled. Since Cain isn't doing it out of minimizing a risk as you're suggesting, he genuinely cares for the safety of his employees and wants them to be safe, as a safe employee is a productive one, whereas a politically correct person wanting to universally deliver intentionally puts his employees in jeopardy and is anti-worker. God Bless Herman Cain!

It was a pleasure debating with you kind sir.
Debate?

I was originally saying you can't call Cain an Uncle Tom for this little issue. In some ways, I'm actually agreeing that it is "better to be safe than sorry", but who's to say ya can't get shot in the suburbs or the gated communities where the upper crust lives? There is no sure way to be safe, and while I can understand his position on that, I can't fully agree with him. Then again, business is business and politics is bullsh.., er, politics. Also, a violent neighborhood is a violent neighborhood. It wouldn't be a race issue if no one said it was a violent black neighborhood.

I just feel that certain terms and lables are usually over used and this is one of those times.
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:09 PM
 
Location: 95468
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The previous poll on this subject had a supermajority (~2/3) saying it was racist, and the majority rules in the court of public opinion.

Back to the topic at hand. Is Cain a U-T for telling his drivers to avoid these areas?
What an odd duck you are.

Now to pizza. Or more to the point the lack of it. Low priced supermarkets, pizza delivery or a neighborhood ice-cream man
are the little perks civilized communities deserve and enjoy.
If those non-pizza communities want pizza they have to not shoot the pizza guy.
Simple as that.
Who knows, one day you may hear the ding ding of your own ice-cream man! (Don't shoot him eather)

Well I gotta go. My U-T and A-J will be stoping by soon with my G-G-G-M that I havn't seen since I was a L-G! Were ordering pizza!!
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Old 06-14-2011, 12:11 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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It would have been more noble to have his workers be murdered,sometimes you have to sacrifice a few people for the greater good of the proletariat...

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Old 06-14-2011, 12:13 PM
 
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You know, you can say 'Uncle Tom' and NOT censor it....

It's no different than the N word, so out of respect it should be.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Neither here nor there
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I would call him smart to avoid lawsuits from employees who would claim he's endangering their safety. That, and he genuinely cares for his employees' safety. Good PR and helps bring in more prospective employees. Herman Cain is pro-worker!
I would call it that he is placing the safety of his employees above his bottom line. I give him two thumbs up. I watched the Republican debate last night and Cain came across to me as a very compassionate and sensible man.

Blacks would more likely call him an "Uncle Tom" because he is a conservative, a Republican and a successful businessman than for refusing to have his employees deliver to high crime areas.
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Old 06-14-2011, 01:33 PM
 
Location: NC
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It was crappy pizza anyway
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