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No, they are the ones challenging authority with their version of right or wrong and their free thinking that they can do whatever they want.
Challenging a teacher during a discussion on academic content is one thing but challenging a teacher when she asks for class attention and quiet so she can teach a lesson is another. And these kids do not differentiate..they challenge everything and more time is spent on classroom and behavior management than on academics.
I've been in middle schools this past year..I have seen it first hand.
So you concur that forcing children to recite the Pledge of Allegiance has no impact on the rest of their behavior, and if it does have an impact on troublemakers, it's probably the wrong kind of impact, inspiring rebellion rather than conformity? Good, we're on the same page, then.
I got through the third page of this thread and am disgusted at the amount of anti-American's there are living right here in THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! You people against the pledge should be ashamed of yourselves. You live here, in this wonderful country and yet refuse to pledge your allegiance to it. Don't like it? Get out! Go live in Mexico and pledge your allegiance to their flag, America doesn't need you.
Probably, it is the people who are unable to actually understand the arguments that should "get out!" This country is suffering a dearth of intelligent, rational, educated people who actually understand that our country was founded AGAINST unthinking loyalty. There's nothing anti-American about noting that loyalty oaths, compelled loyalty, is meaningless. The only loyalty that is worth anything is loyalty that is offered up freely, because people trust and respect their government. It's ironic that the people who think compelling loyalty oaths is a good thing are often the same people who go on and on about how much they distrust our government, how our elected leaders are no good, how our system no longer works. Hint: "and to the republic for which it stands" means our system of government. A republic is a system of government. And it's because we DO love the United States, for her greatness and for her faults, that we make this argument. You don't like that your fellow Americans don't agree with you? Perhaps you should be the one to go live elsewhere.
"The[SIZE=5]teacher[/SIZE] in that class began to yell at her, began to shout at her," said Ajmel Quereshi, the ACLU attorney representing the girl. "Other students began to jump in and mock her when they saw that he was calling her names and calling her stupid. She was feeling embarassed so
the teacher needs to be suspended without pay and warned he will be fired if he ever does that to a student again. If this child were mine I would fight to have that done to this teacher.
the teacher needs to be suspended without pay and warned he will be fired if he ever does that to a student again. If this child were mine I would fight to have that done to this teacher.
Begin with the unconstitutional state law that gave the teacher the authority to force the Pledge on their students. Otherwise, this will not be an isolated incident.
I think the Pledge of Allegiance should be required right after marching practice but before bowing down to a portrait of the current sitting president.
Children who disobey should be paddled and their parents arrested for suspicion of engaging in un-American activities.
If you CHOOSE to live here for whatever reason, you should at least support it.
Support what? Saying something everyday in school becauae someone else decided we should say it? Nope, sorry. Living here doesn't mean checking your brain at the door. Questioning authority and why things are the way they are is everyones job. Often we find there is good reason for something, even if we don't see it or understand it. Other times we see that something is quite silly. And many of us didn't CHOOSE to live here, we just do.
I never said it was a horrible thing, I said it shouldn't be forced and isn't even being said by many people now and that I don't care. I also said it should be taught in school so people know what it's about. I think I'm being pretty level headed here.
People act like the "Pledge of Alliegence" has been around for a long time, it hasn't. We fought a Civil War without one. The Oaths so many took to defend the Constitution went out the window as Politicians and Military Officers turned traitor and took up arms against the United States
If you CHOOSE to live here for whatever reason, you should at least support it.
How does reciting a poem "support it"?
They could encourage their parents to pay their taxes and support it
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