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Making a point is a red-herring? Do you really parrot your life after Jefferson?
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Cool, can we finally discredit God for all the infanticide, genocide, plagues, misogyny, etc.? I mean, if a person's wisdom is canceled out by their actions, we certainly aren't going to give a goose fart about the bible, are we?
You may not and I am OK with that, so please do not try to live or judge my life based on your thinking.
Science is all about disproving its own theories. If it can be done, then scientific consensus shifts. It's not like they're sitting around, content with their pronouncements like religious people.
That's funny because that is exactly the way you sound.
I do not think anyone here has issue with the faith of belief of others, at least I would hope they do not.
However when one presents their faith, belief, or ideology as an argument or implies it is somehow more valid or factual than that of someone else that can trend to hostility which is what I think some are resorting to (which is where I feel insults aimed at both those who are pro or anti creationism come from)
The issue is not the idea, not the faith... the issue is the argument.
There is no logic for teaching Ideology as science in a school curriculum because it lacks the supporting evidence needed to teach via the progression and illustration of standard scientific process. I doubt anyone thinks there was no cause for the universe or life, but for it to be included in a science class we have to be able to show, illustrate, quantify, and prove it via scientific method... and we can not test belief or faith.
In short... Creationism is not science and thus trying to teach it as part of science reveals several issues with how to present it according to how we teach science (by the scientific method and citation of evidence). Evolution is the other side of the coin, we do have evidence supporting adaptation and we can even look at local variants of a given species to see its adaptations to its environment.
There is no need to belittle either side, but there is a need for clear and logical arguments for either sides claims or proposals.... and that is what I am addressing personally. I see a flawed or fallacious argument I am prone to pointing out the flaw and explaining why it does not prove a point. Nothing more, nothing less.
Do you think man either has, or soon will have, the capability to create life and is this scientific?
No. Making an irrelevant point in the effort to avoid addressing the issue at hand is a red herring.
The point was a statement by Jefferson. I merely pointed out that he was not perfect. It seems to me that his statement was a sign of some inferiority complex, perhaps his debt problems or the impregnation of a slave.
If you can argue my point without attempted belittlement then please have at it.
It was contained in a statement by Jefferson, yes.
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I merely pointed out that he was not perfect.
That's called "poisoning the well." It is not an argument. It is a red herring.
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It seems to me that his statement was a sign of some inferiority complex, perhaps his debt problems or the impregnation of a slave.
Yes... you have been hung up of late with accusing everybody around you of having "an inferiority complex." That's why it seems clear you are projecting.
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If you can argue my point without attempted belittlement then please have at it.
Someday, you will say something that is not ironic. And I will smoke a cigar in celebration.
If you think man can create life and it is scientific then why can't a higher power or perhaps an all knowing being (God) and be scientific rather than ideological or dogmatic as well?
It was contained in a statement by Jefferson, yes.
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That's called "poisoning the well." It is not an argument. It is a red herring.
Belittleing people is the best way to communicate with people who may be smarter than you if they are unintelligible to you? I think I am the one who should be crying red-herring.
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Yes... you have been hung up of late with accusing everybody around you of having "an inferiority complex." That's why it seems clear you are projecting.
Someday, you will say something that is not ironic. And I will smoke a cigar in celebration.
And again, you prove me correct. No cigar required.
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