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Does it prove anything? The authors of those legends had access to Jewish prophecies and the OT historical books. Can you prove they didn't just develop their own myths?
Do you have any original documents or early manuscripts of the epic of gilgamesh to base that on?
No. I do not.
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Does it prove anything if some ancient peoples heard of the prophecies of the coming Messiah and formed their own legend?
Do you hold your own beliefs to this same standard? Do you have any original documents referring to the Jesus myth? Do you have any evidence that the mesopotamians heard of these 'prophecies'?
Except that this would be unconstitutional as well as boneheaded.
How is that unconstitutional? Enforcing religion or making it law goes against separation of church and state, but teaching it as a possible explanation or one option of many isn't.
And of course, many people think that teaching creationism is boneheaded but many people think teaching evolution is boneheaded. No matter what we do, someone will think it's boneheaded and try to oppose it. So why not give kids all the options and let them decide?
Do you hold your own beliefs to this same standard? Do you have any original documents referring to the Jesus myth? Do you have any evidence that the mesopotamians heard of these 'prophecies'?
I have the utmost confidence that the text I read was translated from a text that is more accurate than you could believe. We have manuscripts from about 125 AD. Thousands of manuscripts. No other work in antiquity compares to it. You would do well to do a bit of study on how we determine the textual dependability of the Bible before you embarass yourself on this one. There is no contest.
Does it prove anything? The authors of those legends had access to Jewish prophecies and the OT historical books. Can you prove they didn't just develop their own myths?
Inasmuch as anything can be so proven, and it's just as valid - and in the case of Sumerian and older Babylonian sources, more so - to say that the Jews had access to OLDER prophecies and historical books.
There's even evidence of this in the New Testament - the similarities between the tenets expressed in the Sermon on the Mount and the Upanishads, which are much older, are obvious.
The similarities are striking and undeniable, so much so that it cannot be a coincidence.
Even better, you cannot prove otherwise. Let me remind you once again that the rules of logic that you so like to cite apply to your arguments as well, even when you find them inconvenient.
You can choose to just turn a blind eye to it, as so many fundamentalist Christians choose to do in willful ignorance, or you could broaden your horizons a bit and choose to see it for what the evidence supports: that some moral and ethical principles are universal among mankind, that some stories and parables are far older than most people know, and that mythological and religious plagiarism is nothing new.
Do you REALLY think the Jews could be held captive in Babylon for so long without experiencing some cultural influence? Really?
Abram (Abraham) was from Ur, remember? He was a Chaldean.
I have the utmost confidence that the text I read was translated from a text that is more accurate than you could believe. We have manuscripts from about 125 AD. Thousands of manuscripts. No other work in antiquity compares to it. You would do well to do a bit of study on how we determine the textual dependability of the Bible before you embarass yourself on this one. There is no contest.
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of the truth than lies."
One of these days you will understand the meaning of this quote.
I have the utmost confidence that the text I read was translated from a text that is more accurate than you could believe. We have manuscripts from about 125 AD. Thousands of manuscripts. No other work in antiquity compares to it. You would do well to do a bit of study on how we determine the textual dependability of the Bible before you embarass yourself on this one. There is no contest.
Textual dependability says nothing about the accuracy about the statements contained within.
Aka: repeatedly retelling the same lies does not make them truth.
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