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From the other thread I thought you were better than this.
What do you mean? Better than what? IOW I don't believe anyone, or rather I would hope no one on this forum actually believes that the Flintstones is really meant as a documentary. However, I do know of an individual that uses it as a documentary. I apologize for any missunderstanding.
What do you mean? Better than what? IOW I don't believe anyone, or rather I would hope no one on this forum actually believes that the Flintstones is really meant as a documentary. However, I do know of an individual that uses it as a documentary. I apologize for any missunderstanding.
How many of the blue colored states with the highest rates of graduation are actual blue states?
Old Savoir doesn't seem to know that most of those blue states tend to have some large cities that usually change the numbers a bit more than they like to see.
Why do you always just support whatever post agrees with your ideology without ever investigating it?
Seems like you would be curious about the questionable methodology used to derive this list before throwing your support behind something of this nature, if for no other reason than to just save some credibility on here.
How about you doing some discussion about that methodology instead of taking the easy way out making loud noise about nothing?
At the same time, especially since NCLB was passed, the definition of dropout has changed and become standardized across the country, basically if a student graduates within 5 years of entering 9th grade or if he/she receives a GED by age 24 he/she is a graduate.
Many of us graduated from high school during a time when dropouts weren't tracked and didn't count against a school's AYP rating. That changed in some states starting in the 1980's and nationally with the adoption of NCLB.
As an aside the reek of classism and elitisim exuded by some of the posters is, hell, I can't even think of a word for it. And that's unusual.
You are so right in all you said, especially the effect of NCLB on the whole thing. I taught for 28 years in high school and noticed that as time went on less and less was demanded of students. Of course, my time stopped in 1986 and things are even worse today. My wife just retired after 39 years in the same school where students were proud to have been in her classes since she was as tough to make a grade with as I was. Of course, us being in rural Kansas will cause many to make loud noises because of the red and rural part.
In my first 10 years I used many questions of the essay variety on all my tests and got by with it. Then the really special crap of special ed crept into the schools and finally all that crap about self-esteem got in. As time went along more and more kids were unable to write essay answers even when they got only extra credit for them. I am not sure about the schools of today where they teach to the state tests so much of the time. I always wanted even the bottom students to be able to write something to prove that they knew something. Many of my students of the early 60s and 70s would have been called Special Ed today but they managed to answer essay questions because they learned to write in elementary school.
There is too much crap being thrown on this thread, for me.
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