middle class is saved...obamacare changes allow nearly free healthcare for those making up to 60K a year (insurance, cost)

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Ariadne22

Nothing in the Medicaid parameters talks about early retirement. People can retire early all they want, that doesn't make them 65 years old.

Medicaid says you have to be 65 - not "early retired" - unless they changed that.

Keep in mind the source article is from the UK. It is inaccurate.

medicare is 65, not medicaid.

Here's a AP source....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110621/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_overhaul_glitch (broken link)

[ozzie679]

Originally Posted by Ariadne22

Nothing in the Medicaid parameters talks about early retirement. People can retire early all they want, that doesn't make them 65 years old.

Medicaid says you have to be 65 - not "early retired" - unless they changed that.

Keep in mind the source article is from the UK. It is inaccurate.

Medicare says you have to be 65 to receive benefits...not Medicaid

Here's the AP piece AP Exclusive: Medicaid For The Middle Class? : NPR (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=137321978 - broken link)

[ozzie679]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

medicare is 65, not medicaid.

Here's a AP source....
AP Exclusive: Medicaid for the middle class? - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110621/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_overhaul_glitch - broken link)

LOL...the same post as I

[AuDiBelle]

Originally Posted by Winter_Sucks

Make those using the program pay in with higher co-pays and premiums until the program breaks even each year. Have each state set up a Medicaid Advisory board to rein in costs and improve efficiency. Use Medicaid to negotiate better prices on medical devises and prescription drugs. Incentives healthy lifestyles. They're are many option to improve efficiency.

You don't work in health care, do you? Medicaid already reimburses at rock bottom rates (the lowest rates in the industry) to the point that it COSTS doctors and hospitals to treat medicaid patients. Hence the reason so many doctors and hospitals are no longer accepting them. The way the system is set up, providers are not allowed to charge the patient the difference. The patients cannot be billed for co-pays or deductibles. How can you incentivize healthy lifestyles when they are getting this benefit at no cost already? What "incentive" could you possibly give someone?

[AuDiBelle]

Originally Posted by Ariadne22

Nothing in the Medicaid parameters talks about early retirement. People can retire early all they want, that doesn't make them 65 years old.

Medicaid says you have to be 65 - not "early retired" - unless they changed that.

Keep in mind the source article is from the UK. It is inaccurate.

I think you're confused. Medicare is for seniors, Medicaid is for poor regardless of age. Sometimes, people qualify for both.

[stan4]

Disaster.

[oz in SC]

I think it is GREAT!!!

I LOVE these sorts of F' ups...it makes a few more people realise how inept the government is.

[Ariadne22]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

medicare is 65, not medicaid.

Here's a AP source....
AP Exclusive: Medicaid for the middle class? - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110621/ap_on_bi_ge/us_health_overhaul_glitch - broken link)

WRONG!!!!!! MEDICAID HAS TO BE 65 - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

Originally Posted by ozzie679

Medicare says you have to be 65 to receive benefits...not Medicaid

Here's the AP piece AP Exclusive: Medicaid For The Middle Class? : NPR (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=137321978 - broken link)

WRONG!!!!!! MEDICAID HAS TO BE 65 - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

Originally Posted by whatyousay

I think you're confused. Medicare is for seniors, Medicaid is for poor regardless of age. Sometimes, people qualify for both.

WRONG!!!!!! MEDICAID HAS TO BE 65 - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

For all of you above who somehow missed this, I will repost - this is from the MEDICAID WEBSITE:

In general, you should apply for Medicaid if you have limited income and resources. You must match one of the descriptions below. (Even if you are not sure whether you qualify, if you or someone in your family needs health care, you should apply for Medicaid and have a qualified caseworker in your state evaluate your situation.)
Pregnant Women
Apply for Medicaid if you think you are pregnant. You may be eligible if you are married or single. If you are on Medicaid when your child is born, both you and your child will be covered.
Children and Teenagers
Apply for Medicaid if you are the parent or guardian of a child who is 18 years old or younger and your family's income is limited, or if your child is sick enough to need nursing home care, but could stay home with good quality care at home. If you are a teenager living on your own, the state may allow you to apply for Medicaid on your own behalf or any adult may apply for you. Many states also cover children up to age 21.
Person who is Aged, Blind, and/or Disabled
Apply if you are aged (65 years old or older), blind, or disabled and have limited income and resources. Apply if you are terminally ill and want to get hospice services. Apply if you are aged, blind, or disabled; live in a nursing home; and have limited income and resources. Apply if you are aged, blind, or disabled and need nursing home care, but can stay at home with special community care services. Apply if you are eligible for Medicare and have limited income and resources.


https://www.cms.gov/MedicaidEligibility/02_AreYouEligible_.asp#TopOfPage (broken link)

Can no on here READ?!!!! 65 - IS WHAT IT SAYS - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by Ariadne22

WRONG!!!!!! MEDICAID HAS TO BE 65 - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

WRONG!!!!!! MEDICAID HAS TO BE 65 - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.


WRONG!!!!!! MEDICAID HAS TO BE 65 - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

For all of you above who somehow missed this, I will repost - this is from the MEDICAID WEBSITE:

Can no on here READ?!!!! 65 - IS WHAT IT SAYS - UNLESS BLIND OR DISABLED.

Adriadne22..Obamacare just changed all that come 2014.
The middle class is SAVED !!!!

And you get to pay for it if you make $61K per year

[jmking]

Originally Posted by HappyTexan

That's right folks. You can make up to $60K a year and qualify for medicaid.
Up to 3 million more will qualify for nearly free healthcare.
SS will not be counted towards income restrictions.

So do we rejoice because the government has raised the bar for who is considered poor enough for medicaid ?

That's about 20-25 million people that the taxpayers will subsidize.


Obama's health care law means millions of middle-class people get nearly free insurance | Mail Online
"The actuary's office said the three million early retirees who would become eligible for Medicaid are on top of an estimated 16 million to 20 million people that Obama's law would already bring into the program, by opening it to childless adults with incomes near the poverty level. Federal taxpayers will cover all of the initial cost of the expansion."

It's really a shame because medicaid it about if not the worse insurance anyone can ever have in this country. It is nothing but a HMO on speed. Very bad program. I would think anyone making 60 grand a year would tell whom ever to stick it up your..........................................