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Old 06-22-2011, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Millions in middle-class could get Medicaid - Health - Health care - msnbc.com


WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.


Now to be fair, its retired Americans drawing social security making less than 64,000 a year. Its because Social Security payments won't be counted as "income" anymore, under another law.

President Obama said they are working on a solution to remedy the situation.

This is what happens when we pass bills without reading them, and when one party refuses to compromise and work with the other on anything. I think healthcare will eventually work itself out, but it would have been a whole lot quicker and painless if Democrats had slowed down, and if Republicans had worked with them.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:59 AM
 
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Millions in middle-class could get Medicaid - Health - Health care - msnbc.com


WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama's health care law would let several million middle-class people get nearly free insurance meant for the poor, a twist government number crunchers say they discovered only after the complex bill was signed.


Now to be fair, its retired Americans drawing social security making less than 64,000 a year. Its because Social Security payments won't be counted as "income" anymore, under another law.

President Obama said they are working on a solution to remedy the situation.

This is what happens when we pass bills without reading them, and when one party refuses to compromise and work with the other on anything. I think healthcare will eventually work itself out, but it would have been a whole lot quicker and painless if Democrats had slowed down, and if Republicans had worked with them.
I knew about that last year! And I posted it about it and no one would listen. Idiots!!

They claim this health bill would cost less than 1 trillion. I said when it's all said and done, it will end up costing the government 3X as much.

People know the game. Just do the simple math. Why pay X amount for healthcare when you are older (ages 62-65). What if you health premiums end up costing you $10K a year for both you and your spouse. You might as well quit working, take early social security (with "reduced payments) but you make it up by not paying that $10K in health premiums.

The reduced social security payments are more and evened out with the "free" health care you will get.

Again, this does a triple whammy. One extra person on social security (taking benefits...one less person not generating any tax revenues because they stopped working)...now they get "free healthcare" on the government dough.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:03 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Posted this yesterday. So $60K is now the new "poor"...nice job America.
20-25 million will get healthcare and the taxpayers will foot this bill.

Better work hard because now you have to pay for your own healthcare and that of someone else.
You think premiums are high this year because parts of obamacare kicked in then just wait til next year.

I think we're going to see other "gems" coming out of this 2000+ page bill as folks continue to read it.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:13 AM
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Even if they fix the problem of ignoring SS income, there will still be millions of early retirees eligible for medicaid or an obamacare subsidy.

Why on earth should the poor taxpayer who can't afford to retire before 65 be called on to pay for people fortunate enough to be able to retire at 55???

But I guess that's obama's idea of "fair"...

Last edited by C.C; 06-22-2011 at 06:16 AM.. Reason: reword
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Even if they fix the problem of ignoring SS income, there will still be millions of early retirees eligible for medicaid or an obamacare subsidy.

Why on earth should the poor ******* of a taxpayer who can't afford to retire before 65 be called on to pay for people fortunate enough to be able to retire at 55???

But I guess that's obama's idea of "fair"...
Not 55, but 62 and taking reduced SS. Those at 62 have to wait 3 years to get medicare. This gives them that "gap" insurance for 3 years.

I have to wonder if this was a carrot dangled to AARP to get them on board with obamacare.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:18 AM
 
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To be fair, a large percentage of the involuntarily uninsured are lower middle class people who make too much money to qualify for medicaid. This is probably going to be a godsend to a lot of working Americans.

64 000 is probably a high income to start it off with, but stuff like that can be fine-tuned later by competent politicans working together across party limits for the benefit of Americans and not their campaign contributors....

Excuse me I muct go outside and laugh like a hyena.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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Millions of middle class Americans to get free healthcare under the healthcare law

We have to pass the bill to know what's in it...

- famous words from an infamous woman
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:19 AM
 
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Oh God forbid we should HELP our own people. Let's just keep on killing those brown skins overseas. Oops, I forgot, we want their resources. The heck with useless eater Americans.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:24 AM
 
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Oh God forbid we should HELP our own people. Let's just keep on killing those brown skins overseas. Oops, I forgot, we want their resources. The heck with useless eater Americans.
I've told you before.

YOU have the power to do something.

Gather like minded people and form an insurance fund for people who need it.

Easy peasy.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:25 AM
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Not 55, but 62 and taking reduced SS. Those at 62 have to wait 3 years to get medicare. This gives them that "gap" insurance for 3 years.

I have to wonder if this was a carrot dangled to AARP to get them on board with obamacare.
You miss my point - you don't have to be 62 or on SS to qualify for either medicaid or a subsidy.
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