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Old 06-22-2011, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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That connecting of dots would be dangerous for them to maintain their anti-corporation thoughts.
Thank you for adding evidence to my point.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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When is it that they haven't? What is the guarantee that they won't (absent the excuses)? Do you think AEP is targeting reduced overall capacity and told that to its majority shareholders?


The conservative problem is that they spend way too much time connecting the dots provided to them by crooks, instead of thinking. Perhaps you should tell me... when was the last time you thought AEP as a corporation existed for your all around personal benefit and that the policies it engages in, the games any corporation plays has YOU as the priority?
Does AEP put that power in those little things you plug your electric appliances to? If so, maybe we should start looking at the facts of life and stop trying so hard to destroy the power companies. Oh wait, I forgot to say who has to take over once those corporations are forced out of business. Yep, then the government would be supplying all the jobs, huh.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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LOL, you're running around in circles and not making sense.

The bottom line is higher electric rates because of these regualtions and job losses. Period.
But can't they ever see that once we have driven the electric companies out of business someone will have to provide the electric power to keep all GM's Volts running? When will they realize that electric power will not be cheaper once the government has to take over generation of power? When they do understand all of this it will be too late and the UN will be running things here where we have instituted Agenda 21 for them.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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When is it that they haven't? What is the guarantee that they won't (absent the excuses)? Do you think AEP is targeting reduced overall capacity and told that to its majority shareholders?


The conservative problem is that they spend way too much time connecting the dots provided to them by crooks, instead of thinking. Perhaps you should tell me... when was the last time you thought AEP as a corporation existed for your all around personal benefit and that the policies it engages in, the [b]games any corporation plays has YOU as the priority?QUOTE]

...and that is the million dollar question, or in this case, multi billion dollar question. The defense of the big corporation's machinations by the every day individual is mind boggling. This is the portion of the masses that enables such greed to proliferate by buying into the propaganda, out and out corruption, greed and lies. Mind blowing.
I was just thinking the very thing you said but in reverse of the way you intended it to be taken. You do understand, I hope.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:38 PM
 
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Have they closed inefficient plants before this particular regulation you're blaming for it?
Your arguments are ridiculous, I'll try and simplify this with an analogy. Suppose you own an older car and the EPA comes in and says you have to upgrade it to meet new emissions standards which is going to have no mechanical benefit. If you have half a brain in your head your going to consider the value of the car and what your potential long term liabilities might be such as if it's high mileage and might need some major work shortly.

While it might be worth keeping this car around the additional costs of bringing it up to the new standards may make it pointless and you're just better off getting a new car.

Understood now?
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Does AEP put that power in those little things you plug your electric appliances to? If so, maybe we should start looking at the facts of life and stop trying so hard to destroy the power companies. Oh wait, I forgot to say who has to take over once those corporations are forced out of business. Yep, then the government would be supplying all the jobs, huh.
I don't think so. But don't worry about me and my "needs", I'm working towards installing solar panels on my home in couple of years anyway. I will be fine. I don't get worried as easily as you do.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Thank you. It would be rather stupid to keep rarely used power plants when their production can be shifted and efficiency improved. No? If the plants are being closed by the government, is AEP management
"the stupid"?

When you're talking about a corporations, profits are ALWAYS a part of the argument. Perhaps not true in your conservative wonderland?
Once the government has killed off all those evil corporations is there anybody other than government who can come up with the money to keep manufacture going? When will you manage to address that question and admit that we are headed right at socialism, government control of sources of manufacture? I don't think any of you people will ever undestand that.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Your arguments are ridiculous, I'll try and simplify this with an analogy. Suppose you own an older car and the EPA comes in and says you have to upgrade it to meet new emissions standards which is going to have no mechanical benefit. If you have half a brain in your head your going to consider the value of the car and what your potential long term liabilities might be such as if it's high mileage and might need some major work shortly.

While it might be worth keeping this car around the additional costs of bringing it up to the new standards may make it pointless and you're just better off getting a new car.

Understood now?
I thought you had more than stories to share. Remember, you were questioning my ability to comprehend and articulate cost impact due to inflation versus recession etc? You went back to the good old rhetoric.

In 2008, AEP was looking to increase rates by 45% in Ohio with THIS excuse:

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American Electric Power said Thursday it must raise electricity rates 45 percent for its nearly 1.5 million customers in Ohio over the next three years, to cover soaring coal prices and the cost of modernizing its systems to keep them reliable
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Once the government has killed off all those evil corporations is there anybody other than government who can come up with the money to keep manufacture going? When will you manage to address that question and admit that we are headed right at socialism, government control of sources of manufacture? I don't think any of you people will ever undestand that.
Please wake me up when that happens. Until then your rhetoric represents nothing but paranoid sold to you by your favorite characters.
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Old 06-22-2011, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Thank you for adding evidence to my point.
You couldn't keep up the anti-corporation crap if you allowed that kind of thinking to enter your brain. You would have to see government heading toward socialism at which time they run the corporation provided plants for us and they can then much more readily determine the prices we pay.
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