Fareed Zakaria: Dump the Constitution (enemy, politicians, Montana, elections)

[All American NYC]

Fareed Zakaria: Dump the Constitution

It should come as no surprise Fareed Zakaria wants to do away with the Constitution. He is a darling of the Council On Foreign Relations and a Bilderberg member. He also sits on the board of the Trilateral Commission. He is a serious globalist and as such an avowed enemy of the Constitution and especially the Bill of Rights.

[wxjay]

I heard nothing in the video clip about "doing away with the Constitution." I heard that he advocates amending the Constitution for some instances (exactly what is not detailed in the clip) and also advocates reforming the tax code (which is actually a great thing).

Zakaria also claims there are "antiquated" elements of the Constitution. I think this is true, especially the Electoral College. I have yet to hear a viable, legitimate reason why we can vote for every other office in government by popular vote but for the Presidency.

In the clip he also advocates for us to look to other nations and pick out good and bad things and adjust those to our system of government. I don't necessarily find this to be a bad idea - in fact, this is what the Founding Fathers did. They looked around at the systems of government and chose the goods and the bads.

[All American NYC]

We need to rewrite the 14th amendment for its true intent

[workingclasshero]

Originally Posted by wxjay

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Zakaria also claims there are "antiquated" elements of the Constitution. I think this is true, especially the Electoral College. I have yet to hear a viable, legitimate reason why we can vote for every other office in government by popular vote but for the Presidency.

the electorial college is NEEDED

New York city(the city not the state) has a bigger population than over 10 other states COMBINED

example the popluation of New York City is 8.5 million.......which is bigger than 38 of the states

look at these STATES combined:

wyoming 544k
vermont 621k
n. dakota 640k
alaska 690k
s. dakota 821k
delaware 885k
montana 974k
rhode island 1.01 million
hawaii 1.2 million
maine 1.3 million

total 7.8 million

10 states combined less than the population of NY CITY

if you eliminate it, it goes to popluar vote, which would be squewed towards the cities




you cant repeal the electorial college

[SourD]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

you cant repeal the electorial college

They sure want to try. They want Communism AKA Pure Democracy where mob rules. It's the only way the Left will ever get their way.

[LauraC]

Originally Posted by All American NYC

We need to rewrite the 14th amendment for its true intent

We need to start arresting and prosecuting politicians based on the 10th amendment.

[wxjay]

Originally Posted by workingclasshero

the electorial college is NEEDED

New York city(the city not the state) has a bigger population than over 10 other states COMBINED

example the popluation of New York City is 8.5 million.......which is bigger than 38 of the states

look at these STATES combined:

wyoming 544k
vermont 621k
n. dakota 640k
alaska 690k
s. dakota 821k
delaware 885k
montana 974k
rhode island 1.01 million
hawaii 1.2 million
maine 1.3 million

total 7.8 million

10 states combined less than the population of NY CITY

if you eliminate it, it goes to popluar vote, which would be squewed towards the cities




you cant repeal the electorial college

Other than 2 times in history (note: I am not counting the Jackson/Adams and Hayes/Tilden elections because those were mired in several other issues besides EC vs. popular vote), the eventual President of the US has won the popular vote. I fail to see how popular vote then changes election results.

And, by the way, your argument would also involve elections of state governors, US senators, mayors of cities, etc. Everything should be an electoral college?

[WestCobb]

Originally Posted by wxjay

Other than 2 times in history (note: I am not counting the Jackson/Adams and Hayes/Tilden elections because those were mired in several other issues besides EC vs. popular vote), the eventual President of the US has won the popular vote. I fail to see how popular vote then changes election results.

And, by the way, your argument would also involve elections of state governors, US senators, mayors of cities, etc. Everything should be an electoral college?

People who want to get rid of the electoral college because it usurps the popular vote, and people who want to keep it because they think it somehow gives rural citizens more of a vote than urban ones, are both wrong. The electoral college is anachronistic, borne out of the logistical problems of a nation-wide vote back in the late 1700s, but for the most part its results mirror the results of the popular vote, so who cares?

[psulions2007]

Originally Posted by wxjay

Other than 2 times in history (note: I am not counting the Jackson/Adams and Hayes/Tilden elections because those were mired in several other issues besides EC vs. popular vote), the eventual President of the US has won the popular vote. I fail to see how popular vote then changes election results.

And, by the way, your argument would also involve elections of state governors, US senators, mayors of cities, etc. Everything should be an electoral college?

This.


Also, we should be a parliamentary system.

[Luke9686]

Originally Posted by LauraC

We need to start arresting and prosecuting politicians based on the 10th amendment.

You had me at prosecuting politicians...