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Old 06-25-2011, 02:23 AM
 
Location: San Antonio, Texas
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:32 AM
 
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If a Black person votes, the vote will most certainly be for Obama. The real question is....will Blacks be enthused enough to go to the polls to vote? I already see a good amount of apathy setting in. I believe it will only get worse.

Barack Obama is not a shoo in by any stretch of the imagination. There are cracks in his machine for sure.
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Old 06-25-2011, 03:46 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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If a Black person votes, the vote will most certainly be for Obama. The real question is....will Blacks be enthused enough to go to the polls to vote? I already see a good amount of apathy setting in. I believe it will only get worse.

Barack Obama is not a shoo in by any stretch of the imagination. There are cracks in his machine for sure.
Or maybe you mean if masses of black people vote, the majority of them will vote for Obama. The way you wrote it sounds like if they are black and they vote, it will be for Obama.
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Old 06-28-2011, 09:28 AM
 
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Are you serious.. or trying to be sarcastic?.. it is the left that is constantly bringing up race and trying to keep racial tension at a high.

I agree that the left brings up racial issues too, but most of the time, they bring them up in an attempt to try to "help" the poor woe is me black folks (wanted to add that I do see this in a negative light as well, but won't get into specifics since we are speaking of conservatives) or attempt to show conservatives as more racist. Liberals go out of there way not to demonize minorities directly and want to be the saviors of those who are downtrodden (insert eyeroll).

They do not allude to a "culture of violence" when it comes to black people, or point out how many black people are on welfare or use social services, or bring up small random groups who are out to get "good hard working American" (aka white people, like the New Black Panther Party and other small fringe groups).

Many black people see this stereotyping and focus on the negatives of blacks in America as a turn off when it comes to conservatives. Why would someone want to be a part of a group who generalizes a whole segment of the population. Also, since most black people aren't criminals there is not a culture of violence amongst black people. Since most black people do not use social services and because black people are such a small portion of the total of users of social services, these comments make the majority of us, who are middle class and work hard to support our families, have a bad view of conservatives politically. Also since most of us are not members of the NBPP or even know what they do or who they are, black people are turned off by conservatives who group us with these fringe groups (and even fringe "leaders" like Sharpton, Farakhan, or Jesse Jackson).

In my quote I spoke directly about conservatives and I will reiterate that the GOP is crazy to not drop all the stereotyping especially of minorities. People who are not criminals or social leeches do not like for others to group them with such people, especially those black people who are more conservative. This generalization of racial stereotypes and use of statistics to show the negatives regarding black people make them turn a blind eye to republicans especially.

Liberals, on the other hand, point out the racism they see in society in order to make themselves look like black people should be with them. They try to make conservatives look like the KKK. They try to make themselves look like a messiah of sorts for minorities. Not all of them do this, just like not all conservatives use stereotyping or generalization but for many the "helpful" nature of liberals is more appealing than the negative stereotyping and generalization used by the GOP.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Central, IL
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I agree that the left brings up racial issues too, but most of the time, they bring them up in an attempt to try to "help" the poor woe is me black folks (wanted to add that I do see this in a negative light as well, but won't get into specifics since we are speaking of conservatives) or attempt to show conservatives as more racist. Liberals go out of there way not to demonize minorities directly and want to be the saviors of those who are downtrodden (insert eyeroll).

They do not allude to a "culture of violence" when it comes to black people, or point out how many black people are on welfare or use social services, or bring up small random groups who are out to get "good hard working American" (aka white people, like the New Black Panther Party and other small fringe groups).

Many black people see this stereotyping and focus on the negatives of blacks in America as a turn off when it comes to conservatives. Why would someone want to be a part of a group who generalizes a whole segment of the population. Also, since most black people aren't criminals there is not a culture of violence amongst black people. Since most black people do not use social services and because black people are such a small portion of the total of users of social services, these comments make the majority of us, who are middle class and work hard to support our families, have a bad view of conservatives politically. Also since most of us are not members of the NBPP or even know what they do or who they are, black people are turned off by conservatives who group us with these fringe groups (and even fringe "leaders" like Sharpton, Farakhan, or Jesse Jackson).

In my quote I spoke directly about conservatives and I will reiterate that the GOP is crazy to not drop all the stereotyping especially of minorities. People who are not criminals or social leeches do not like for others to group them with such people, especially those black people who are more conservative. This generalization of racial stereotypes and use of statistics to show the negatives regarding black people make them turn a blind eye to republicans especially.

Liberals, on the other hand, point out the racism they see in society in order to make themselves look like black people should be with them. They try to make conservatives look like the KKK. They try to make themselves look like a messiah of sorts for minorities. Not all of them do this, just like not all conservatives use stereotyping or generalization but for many the "helpful" nature of liberals is more appealing than the negative stereotyping and generalization used by the GOP.
I will agree with part of what you say, but honestly most of it, is exactly what the liberals want you to believe.

But when the liberals try to tell me I need the help of the rich white man to succeed in life, because they believe the color of my skin makes it impossible to do it on my own, I say that is racist.

When my wife was debating against jesse jackson jr, and he called her an Aunt Jemima and a house negro, I say that is racist.

When the liberals started making claims that everyone that didnt like Obama was a racist, that is in and of itself an attempt to create racial tensions.

I could go on and on. But the truth of the matter is, the GOP has always welcomed me and my family with open arms, and the liberals kept always trying to tell me I was a victim and needed help to make it.
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: South Carolina
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In 2008, Barack Obama won the presidency the same way all previous presidents did – by persuading the swing voters to back his cause. Bush voters in 2004 who bolted to Obama four years later accounted for 7.8 percent of the entire electorate. As Obama’s popular vote victory margin was 7.2 percent, the Bush swing vote was sufficient, at least in the national popular vote, for an Obama victory.
However, Obama supplemented the traditional swing vote with substantial improvements relative to previous Democrats among African American voters. (His numbers with Hispanics were – contrary to conventional wisdom – not terribly groundbreaking. Obama did about the same as Gore did with Hispanic voters in 2000, although he did improve substantially over Kerry’s margin from 2004.) The following chart tracks the importance of African Americans to the Democratic party’s presidential performance by reviewing the past six elections.


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I don't think he will have Black numbers from 2008, some of them must be disappointed by him.
Who on the right deserves my vote?
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:26 AM
 
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Who on the right deserves my vote?
Even better, who on the LEFT deserves your vote?
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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..."The African-American unemployment rate stands at an outrageous 16.2 percent—not a number the Obama White House wants under the mantle of the nation’s first black president. While CBS News reports that the national black unemployment rate is usually higher than the overall unemployment rate, these figures stand at Depression-era levels."
And Obama isn't doing a damn thing about it. He's still floundering with his disastrous economic policies, while the people who put him in office are hurting.

And they're going to vote for him again?
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Old 06-28-2011, 10:35 AM
 
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95% last time.

This obama economy has hit the black community hardest of all.

He'll probably get 94% this time around.
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Old 06-28-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: Fairfax County, VA
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The Democrats can pillage and rape the African-American community and they would still vote Dem!
Are you going to back that up with facts or just leave it as a rant?
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