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Old 06-24-2011, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth, TX
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Yep. Ordinarily, the Miller experiment would be sufficient evidence to prove the hypothesis that oil and natural gas formed from inorganic matter. But where does that leave the evos and their theory of how life began? Did life begin as oil?
How'd you jump to that conclusion, Doctor?
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:31 AM
 
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From what I gather, and please correct me if I'm wrong, but the term "fossil fuel" means basically that unrefined oil is "rotten dinosaurs" to put it in the simplest, most elementary terms. Does anyone else find this absolutely absurd? Where and how did this line of thinking come about? Why is it only dead dinosaurs that become oil? Why doesn't your dead Grandma Gert become oil?

I'm sure that unfortunately I will be personally attacked as usual, instead of the actual thread topic, but if it is possible to avoid attacking me and discuss the actual subject, someone please explain to me this theory, because as of right now "fossil fuels" sounds as credibility as "flat earth."
There is no rotten dinosaurs in petroleum. It is composed of organic material in a body of water (usually ocean) settle to the bottom, creating layers many thousands of feed deep. The pressure creates a intermediate stone-like substance called kerogen, which then, in turn, under heat from the earth's mantle, undergoes a transformation to either gas or petroleum (crude oil). Such substances (gas and crude) only occur in areas once under deep whater for many millions of years.

The term "fossil fuel", which is just about any of the fuels we drill for or mine (petro or coal) are reasonably described by the term fossil fuels (as opposed to wood, which is not "fossil" in nature.
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:34 AM
 
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Oil is not only from dead dinosaurs but from dead plants, animals, bugs, and all other organic matter.
Not at all true. that may describe coal fairly well, but not "oil".
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:42 AM
 
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Ordinarily, the Miller experiment would be sufficient evidence to prove the hypothesis that oil and natural gas formed from inorganic matter.
It would?
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:50 AM
 
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How about a simple experiment that we can all conduct.

Eats some beans and fart, what is that smell?

Gas.

Now when you fart, light a match.

What happens?

You get flames.

Why?

Methane!

The same principle component of.... natural gas!

So for anyone who believes that natural gas which is found, surprisingly alongside petroleum and coal deposits and thinks that such things are not comprised decomposed of organic material is nuts.

And Yes, You can try this one at home!
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Hillsboro, OR
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The OP is a perfect example of the anti-education that is perpetuated by the religious right in this country.

Of course, how would a person believe where fossil fuels originate when they think the world is 6000 years old and they don't believe in evolution?
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Old 06-24-2011, 10:56 AM
 
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How about a simple experiment that we can all conduct.

Eats some beans and fart, what is that smell?

Gas.

Now when you fart, light a match.

What happens?

You get flames.

Why?

Methane!

The same principle component of.... natural gas!

So for anyone who believes that natural gas which is found, surprisingly alongside petroleum and coal deposits and thinks that such things are not comprised decomposed of organic material is nuts.

And Yes, You can try this one at home!

I once saw someone combine these experiments, with hilarious results.
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:01 AM
 
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The OP is a perfect example of the anti-education that is perpetuated by the religious right in this country.

Of course, how would a person believe where fossil fuels originate when they think the world is 6000 years old and they don't believe in evolution?
Rep to you.

Actually, this thread poses a good question. When and how does the "Intelligent Design" crowd believe fossil fuels were made???
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:03 AM
 
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As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words but a movie is worth millions.


YouTube - ‪VOTED #1 BEST: Fart - Human Blue Flame Thrower DIY‬‏
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Old 06-24-2011, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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How about a simple experiment that we can all conduct.

Eats some beans and fart, what is that smell?

Gas.

Now when you fart, light a match.

What happens?

You get flames.

Why?

Methane!

The same principle component of.... natural gas!

So for anyone who believes that natural gas which is found, surprisingly alongside petroleum and coal deposits and thinks that such things are not comprised decomposed of organic material is nuts.

And Yes, You can try this one at home!
I wish that this would have been the first response to the ridiculous OP and the thread had ended at that point
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