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Old 06-26-2011, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Illinois Delta
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... rofl. The more important question you should be asking is why do the radio and mainstream record labels choose to glorify music that objectifies women and promotes violence? There's obviously rap that does not so your favorite author there should be boycotting the radio and the big wigs that figured out that Americans will eat violence and sex up 100% of the time, including in music. Those who point the finger at rap are choosing to ignore the elephant in the room: our culture tolerates violence and misogyny. If we didn't, we would not have rampant prostitution or homicide, Francis Coppola and Quentin Tarantino would never have become major cinema staples and the most popular genre in rap would not be gangsta rap. American society is addicted to violent fantasy... it's kind of what happens when your country is founded on unspeakable violence.

Honey, you said a mouthful! Just look at advertising: booze, pills for erectile dysfunction...how do you explain that to a nine year-old? That women feel forced to resort to dangerous surgeries and injecting Botox into their bodies in order to attract a man speaks volumes as to just how paternalistic this society remains. Art simply reflects life, and this music is, sadly, how some children see the world around them. It's how it is.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:22 PM
 
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LOL I cant believe people still think music makes people violent.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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As a heavy listener of another genre that was demonized (somewhat literally) in the 80s, heavy metal, I can't in good conscience say that rap is responsible for any violence in the black community. Who knows, maybe some idiots really do take the words to heart, but that problem lies in the PARENTS (or lack thereof). I don't go around burning churches and downing bottles of bourbon while riding a Harley (not that there's anything wrong with riding a Harley) because my parents raised me to be a good citizen and to not be so stupid as to be influenced by song lyrics.

e: That said I don't listen to rap mainly cos I just don't like it.
Agreed.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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"Those damn kids and their hip hop music! It's ruining this country!"

Quit bit*hing about it. It's what the generation listens to. And if you're saying only unresponsible parents let their kids listen to it then alot of parents must blow, and for the parents who don't let their kids listen to it, newsflash you can't protect them forever, there is worse sh*t out there then Lil Wayne.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Nashville,TN
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"Those damn kids and their hip hop music! It's ruining this country!"

Quit bit*hing about it. It's what the generation listens to. And if you're saying only unresponsible parents let their kids listen to it then alot of parents must blow, and for the parents who don't let their kids listen to it, newsflash you can't protect them forever, there is worse sh*t out there then Lil Wayne.
Lil Wayne is a gateway drug to selling crack and robbing people at point blank.
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Old 06-26-2011, 08:57 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default It's pathetic, but...

Much of the music is a celebration of ignorance, and this artist is ignorance personified. [MOD CUT]

Last edited by Ibginnie; 06-27-2011 at 03:03 PM.. Reason: off topic
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Earth
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... rofl. The more important question you should be asking is why do the radio and mainstream record labels choose to glorify music that objectifies women and promotes violence? There's obviously rap that does not so your favorite author there should be boycotting the radio and the big wigs that figured out that Americans will eat violence and sex up 100% of the time, including in music. Those who point the finger at rap are choosing to ignore the elephant in the room: our culture tolerates violence and misogyny. If we didn't, we would not have rampant prostitution or homicide, Francis Coppola and Quentin Tarantino would never have become major cinema staples and the most popular genre in rap would not be gangsta rap. American society is addicted to violent fantasy... it's kind of what happens when your country is founded on unspeakable violence.
Not just Coppola and Tarantino - pretty much all of American cinema from silent days to the present would be extremely different if US culture was not based on violence.

Prostitution however is rampant in all countries where there is unemployment and poverty and which are not under Sharia law, even countries which don't have violent histories to the level of the US' history. It's especially high in all countries in which it's illegal.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:17 PM
 
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"Those damn kids and their hip hop music! It's ruining this country!"

Quit bit*hing about it. It's what the generation listens to. And if you're saying only unresponsible parents let their kids listen to it then alot of parents must blow, and for the parents who don't let their kids listen to it, newsflash you can't protect them forever, there is worse sh*t out there then Lil Wayne.
We all know that. The objection is not specifically to one song, it's an objection to the constant vulgarity that comes out of music these days. No one single song or artist causes major issues in society, but a large amount of this stuff over a long period of time slowly erodes away any morality within our culture.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Since Dr. Watkins is 40 years old, and rap music is aimed at teens & young adults 12-24 years of age, he's out of rap/rhythmic radio's 'target demo', to rehash an old broadcasting term.

I seriously doubt if Lil' Wayne is mourning not having him as a fan and buyer of his music.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:35 PM
 
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I don't listen to rap but for other reasons.

A. it really takes no skill, almost anyone can rap over a beat, no instraments, computer generated music, and rhymes that make no sense.

B. Rap tend to be about how the rapper is rich and anyone who isn't is a loser sucker ***** or something along those lines. The rapper will F#*# your girl in front of you and call you chump b/c you dont have a black amex card. Most likely your not rich so your the "loser" he's talking about. I really wanna buy his music.
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