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Old 06-27-2011, 05:34 AM
 
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Sounds like a pretty smart woman.

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Old 06-27-2011, 05:39 AM
 
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They get left behind in school more often. That gives them more time to learn manners and the school work they are seeing for the second time.


"By mining data from the 2000 Census, Rosenfeld was able to figure out the rates at which children in all types of families repeated a grade during elementary or middle school. According to his findings, nearly 7 percent of children raised by heterosexual married couples were held back a year, while about 9.5 percent of children living with adults identifying themselves as same-sex partners repeated a grade."

Children raised by gay couples show good progress through school, study finds
Cherry pick much?

Let's look at what you conveniently left out:
By mining data from the 2000 Census, Rosenfeld was able to figure out the rates at which children in all types of families repeated a grade during elementary or middle school. According to his findings, nearly 7 percent of children raised by heterosexual married couples were held back a year, while about 9.5 percent of children living with adults identifying themselves as same-sex partners repeated a grade.

The difference between the groups pretty much vanishes when taking into account that the heterosexual couples were slightly more educated and wealthier than most gay parents, Rosenfeld said.

"The census data show that having parents who are the same gender is not in itself any disadvantage to children," he said. "Parents' income and education are the biggest indicators of a child's success. Family structure is a minor determinant."

Rosenfeld's findings have been cited by lawyers fighting Proposition 8, the gay marriage ban passed by California voters in 2008. A federal court judge recently overturned the ban, but his ruling is under appeal.

Rosenfeld's study shows that children of gay and married couples had lower grade-repetition rates than their peers raised by opposite-sex unmarried couples and single parents. And all children living in some type of family environment did much better than those living in group housing. Those who were awaiting adoption or placement in a foster home were held back about 34 percent of the time.
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Old 06-27-2011, 05:45 AM
 
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I am trying to understood why children who are raised by gay or lesbian families are better behaved, do better in school, and become more productive members of society than a lot children who grew up with a father and mother.

Any ideas why?
Since we have a lot of parents here [San Francisco] who are gay or lesbian and have raised or are raising familes, it has become very evident how true your statement rings. I have yet to see any who haven't gone on to college and successful careers.
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:22 AM
 
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I am trying to understood why children who are raised by gay or lesbian families are better behaved, do better in school, and become more productive members of society than a lot children who grew up with a father and mother.

Any ideas why?

Type 1 logic error.

Why is it that we cannot see the massive alien spaceship parked on the moon with our telescopes?
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Old 06-27-2011, 06:47 AM
 
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Type 1 logic error.

Why is it that we cannot see the massive alien spaceship parked on the moon with our telescopes?
Logical Phallus see?
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:03 AM
 
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I am trying to understood why children who are raised by gay or lesbian families are better behaved, do better in school, and become more productive members of society than a lot children who grew up with a father and mother.

Any ideas why?
IF this is true, I am going with the idea that the gay couples have to go WAY out of their way to have children, so the children they have are ones they really want and really plan to spend time with and nurture.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:05 AM
 
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They don't, that is complete BS.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:16 AM
 
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I think generally same-sex couples are more prepared because accidents can't happen. Having to jump through a bunch of hoops to adopt weaves out a lot of flaky parents. That said, I by no means think all gay/lesbian couples are better parents than all straight couples, but sociologists have studied the differences and noticed that gay/lesbian parents are slightly more well-adjusted on average because they tend to be older and more well-off so they have had more time to wise up before having kids than the average heterosexual parent.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:20 AM
 
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lol. get lost op.
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Old 06-27-2011, 07:21 AM
 
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They don't, that is complete BS.
How do you know?
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