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I would say Traditional Roman Catholicism may be considered under your criteria.
The traditional teaching of the Church is socially conservative and expressed under the Social Reign Of Christ the King. And the economic principles as outlined in the traditional teachings of the Church would probably be considered liberal by today's standards but I'm not sure they fit into a contemporary category.
This is one reason that immigrant Catholics tended to be Democrats. In an age before social issues such as abortion, divorce, gay "marriage", contraception, feminism etc... were on the radar one reason for the majority of Catholics to find a home in the Democratic Party was its' stance on unions and the working man. I know quite a few Catholics today who are staunch Democrats for this and only this reason. The Unions. And it's impossible to explain to these types that it's not the 1920's, 1930's, 40's or 50's anymore.
I would say Traditional Roman Catholicism may be considered under your criteria.
The traditional teaching of the Church is socially conservative and expressed under the Social Reign Of Christ the King. And the economic principles as outlined in the traditional teachings of the Church would probably be considered liberal by today's standards but I'm not sure they fit into a contemporary category.
This is one reason that immigrant Catholics tended to be Democrats. In an age before social issues such as abortion, divorce, gay "marriage", contraception, feminism etc... were on the radar one reason for the majority of Catholics to find a home in the Democratic Party was its' stance on unions and the working man. I know quite a few Catholics today who are staunch Democrats for this and only this reason. The Unions. And it's impossible to explain to these types that it's not the 1920's, 1930's, 40's or 50's anymore.
In reading through this thread, I realize that I'm quite conservative socially (to my own fashion), and very fiscally liberal.
For ex., I have nothing but contempt for any fiscal right wing ideology, and am quite embarrassed by people who love to be servile to the powerful, and defend fiscal right wing ideology to their own detriment. I don't know how anyone who believes in a fiscally conservative ideology can look in the mirror and not vomit. Seriously.
On the other hand, I'm somewhat conservative socially, though in my own bizarre fashion. For example, I'm all for gays getting married. I think marriage confers upon people a certain respectability, and think people should live together less and marry more. I think divorce should be much more difficult to obtain than it is, but I think marriage should also be difficult to obtain in that it ought to require licenses and courses on anger management, childrearing, finances, etc.
I think birth control should be provided free to anyone who can prove he/she cannot afford it, and that birth control needs to include abortion. The less kids out there, the better for this time period.
I've also got a problem with in-your-face sex. While I'm not necessarily against censoring any of the following, I really dislike them and find that they lead to nothing good, despite some people's assurances that they improve their sex lives (yeah right!): porn (online or anywhere, and including Playboy, Playgirl, etc.), prostitution, sex shows, sex clubs, sex shops, rampant sex with one partner after another, nudist camps, swingers' clubs, sexting, lewd displays of the human body, suggestive clothing, streaking, displays of crude behavior in public (displaying butts, etc. in bars, on the street, etc.), sex advertising, and anyone wearing suggestive clothing outside of the beach.
There's a very strong link between the traditional northern, urban, working class constituency of the Democratic Party---Irish, Italian and Eastern European Catholics--and the "Reagan Democrats" who are of course the main exemplars of "socially conservative fiscally populist" as I prefer to call it, since "liberal" means something else these days. It all keeps coming back to Catholicism.
I kind of fit the socially conservative, economically liberal philosophy. Maybe not in pure form, but I lean that way.
I'm for restrictions on abortion (late term abortions, conscience protection for healthcare workers, etc) Would be against a total ban because it is just not practical and there are certain situations like the mother's life is endangered where it may be necessary. I guess that makes me moderate rather than conservative on this issue (depending on your perspective). Oppose it strongly on a personal level being used simply as a form of birth control.
I think that gay marriage should be left up to the legislature of each individual state and not imposed by the courts or Federal Government. States should be able to make it legal if they want to but not forced to (I'm a strong supporter of Federalism). I'm very tolerant of gays on a personal level.
I'm generally Pro- second amendment
I'm for the legalization of pot
I'm for amnesty for illegals but done the right way not by Executive order
I support Obamacare more or less. I think it needs reform, but I'm not against the government helping those who can't afford it to have health insurance.
I generally support a non-militaristic non-imperialistic foriegn policy. Hate neo-con foriegn policy.
I support Social security
I support marriage and the traditional family and I'm not a big fan of the increase in living together outside of marriage especially when there are kids involved. Wish the private workplace and tax code would support traditional families more.
I'm not in a Union, but I think that workers were much better off when Unions were strong. Much prefer stronger unions rather than more Federal regulation to protect worker's rights,
I'm Catholic, grew up in the Rust belt and have an Eastern-European ethnic background.
Not registered with either party, used to be a Democrat.
I'm a swing voter. Actually like Rand Paul in 2016 right now.
Last edited by Port North; 12-02-2014 at 08:14 AM..
Well the extreme of that sector of thinking is complete totalitarianism... that's one reason why, as it is simply a dangerous road to travel down. The USSR is actually the perfect example of this.
Absolutely not.
The USSR was pretty much the opposite of social conservative. For example, religion was not allowed, family values rejected and abortion was actually encouraged.
Social Conservatism = preservation of traditional values.
USSR abolished traditional values, and replaced them with new values. It had nothing to do with Social Conservatism.
Last edited by Finn_Jarber; 12-02-2014 at 09:27 AM..
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