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Old 07-01-2011, 05:11 PM
 
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What I don't understand is why so many here have trouble with that portion of America that defines marriage as one man and one woman.

How do you think you got here in the first place?

Is nothing sacred anymore?
I'm kind of a Johnny-come-lately in this debate (aside from my dig at NY sports earlier). As a hetero male, I find the idea of homosexual sex to be repulsive and, for the life of me, I can't understand how any man can be attracted to another man.

However, I AM involved in an interracial marriage. I know that a lot of people probably think that my marriage is repulsive too!

Listen, I have no problem with you defining marriage as one man and woman...nobody is telling you that you have talk to, accept or be friends with gays. You're more than welcome to move somewhere where you'll never have to see gays again.

But don't think you're being a little sanctimonious by telling two men or two women that their love cannot be recognized in the same manner as your own?

Throughout my twenties, I kept telling myself I wouldn't get married and that marriage was just a piece of paper. I would think that I could just live with a girl and I didn't need government recognition of my marriage to justify my love...

Then a strange thing happened...I got married. And wouldn't you believe it, I learned of the sanctity of marriage. I learned that a little recognition, and even some legal paperwork, inspired me to try harder to be a better man to wife. I believed in gay marriage before I got married, but I became more passionate about it after I got married.

How could I, or anyone else, deny two people the incredible feelings I have every morning when I wake up to the love my life?

Why would YOU deny that feeling to someone else? Why are you so selfish?
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Old 07-01-2011, 05:36 PM
 
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You must realize that nature is not perfect, people are born with all sorts of deviations, hemaphradites come to mind.The only people I know that feel this way are the very,very religous apparently because "God" could/would never allow such a thing.Fact is people are born this way and it's nothing new, there is no moral decay, we are just getting smarter,thats all.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:07 PM
 
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Throughout my twenties, I kept telling myself I wouldn't get married and that marriage was just a piece of paper. I would think that I could just live with a girl and I didn't need government recognition of my marriage to justify my love...

Then a strange thing happened...I got married. And wouldn't you believe it, I learned of the sanctity of marriage. I learned that a little recognition, and even some legal paperwork, inspired me to try harder to be a better man to wife. I believed in gay marriage before I got married, but I became more passionate about it after I got married.

How could I, or anyone else, deny two people the incredible feelings I have every morning when I wake up to the love my life?

Why would YOU deny that feeling to someone else? Why are you so selfish?
I felt the same way till I got married (to someone of the same sex). Because it's more than just a piece of paper. It's hospital visitation rights, adoption rights, immigration rights, insurance coverage, and many many other rights. Marital status determines all kinds of things, even things you would think are unrelated, like how much social security income you receive. So marriage, legally, is relevant and it is much more than just a piece of paper.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:10 PM
 
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You heterosexual haters keep pulling out the race card as if gays and blacks had the same issues in society.
Gays and blacks don't have identical issues in society but a lot of parallels can be drawn. Take it from someone who's married to someone of the same sex and of a different race.
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Old 07-01-2011, 06:20 PM
 
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There is no mention of it in the constitution. The framers at the time would have considered that bestiality.

Society changes and eventually we see what is wrong and deal with it. We grow as humans all of the time and morality changes too.

But sometimes things get worse until there is societal collapse. Just because you CAN do it does not mean that you SHOULD do it.

If it's not mentioned in the Constitution, then why did the Supreme Court rule that laws banning interracial marriage are unconstitutional? Where did they find that in the Constitution?

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Old 07-01-2011, 07:51 PM
 
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It's about Equality, period.
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Old 07-01-2011, 08:08 PM
 
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I am heterosuxal. Guess I hate myself.

How about this... lets say we stop hating anyone. Will make our rock a much more pleasant place to live.

You are a dinosaur. An anachronism. The time that your hateful bigoted ways are considered acceptable is over. A century from now your grear-great-great grandchildren will look back with shock and amazement that it was ever controversial.
Is that you, God...?
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:33 PM
 
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Ah yes!

Children will be marrying adults in 40 years because as well know, children can give consent.

Seriously, it makes me so sad when I think about how many idiots this world is full of.
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Old 07-01-2011, 09:38 PM
 
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Ah yes!

Children will be marrying adults in 40 years because as well know, children can give consent.

Seriously, it makes me so sad when I think about how many idiots this world is full of.
NAMBLA is working very hard to lower the age of consent. Children's rights. They've got nothin' but time. Time for you to get used to each small step they go in that direction before they take another...
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Old 07-02-2011, 01:56 AM
 
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What I don't understand is why so many here have trouble with that portion of America that defines marriage as one man and one woman.
Its simple. I am heterosexual. When I look at a man it does nothing for me. I can acknowledge that any given man might be quite attractive, but it still doesn't get my motor running.

But there are other men out there who are different. They look at an attractive man and their motor goes full speed ahead. I'm told some of them even want to marry other men. Hey, not my thing, but no harm, no foul, I say go for it if that's what you want.

What's the problem with that?
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