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Old 06-27-2011, 03:11 PM
 
Location: PA
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For those who are not supporting Ron Paul and the LEANINGS OF LIBERTARIANS in the republican party I ask you to read what I am asking and call for Unity in the party. Ron Paul supporters have tried to keep the government limited in it's size and scope to save America from self destruction. If you truly believe yourself to a republican as many of us Ron Paul REPUBLICANS are we believe the party had lost it's way and we have been sounding the alarm for many years now. Thru the years of BUSH and the republicans who have cost this country and national bankrupty we can not vote for more of the same in 2012. Our currently leaders in the republican party are intellectually bankrupt as is our fiscal situation just as much as the Democrats.
It abandoned its principles on limited government for the liberal UN thinkers and globalist and we are not going stand by want watch you do it. When we disrupt straw polls, conservative events it is only to voice the truth and reason to the insanity we have found ourselves in from republicans who help give us this mess. When people stand up and tell us more of the same is good for the nation and party we BOO because truth and history says otherwise. We are told as children in America that TRUTH AND JUSTICE and LIBERTY mean something and those who sell lip service to our constitution and have a RECORD of LYING AND DOING THE OPPOSITE DO A DISSERVICE TO THE NATION AND OUR FREEDOMS.
The party of Goldwater and Reagan were taken to the likes of FDR, Wilson and LBJ in recent years and we don't need another BUSH prescription drug plan, illegal immigrant supporting, republican in the white house. We don't need people who pretend to be conservative and then lead us to more socialism bailing out banks and have sold out our nation for corporations and the progressive elite. At this time in history a party interested in liberty and the constitutional law must lead a nation or we will find ourselves left with no party and no nation we will truly call our home.

To quote Reagan

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.

The heart and soul in 2008 was trying to get the republican party back from the progressive socialist corruption found in our government and within the banking elite. What did we get? McCain!!!

The question is when you pull the level to vote are sure the person you put into the white house will stand up for liberty first, for America first for our traditions and our constitution. Will he or she take their oath of office SERIOUSLY and you know in your heart they will always tell you the truth and only sign into laws those authorized via the constitution.

If you can not unite under Ron Paul and choose another candidate do they have the principled record and trustworthiness to lead our nation to freedom. Without character and principles at this time the great nation of liberty will fall. When you vote for another candidate ask yourself this? Have they ever supported TARP,?Bailouts, Cap and Trade, are they Pro Choice, believe in government run health care, increased taxes, were once Democrats and when they send our men to fight are they fighting for our freedom or someone else's. Do they have any military experience? Have they delivered 4,000 babies and looked them in the face when they were born knowing life matters, liberty matters and so does integrity. Do the republicans on that stage have any integrity left to lead this nation or will we find ourselves slipping further into tyranny.


For Liberty I choose Ron Paul
Why do you choose your candidate?
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:14 PM
 
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I can't vote for RP as long as he entertains his crazy 911 Truther followers. He has some good ideas and would do good at some positions in the WH, but not POTUS IMO. He's a bit feeble.
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:35 PM
 
Location: PA
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I can't vote for RP as long as he entertains his crazy 911 Truther followers. He has some good ideas and would do good at some positions in the WH, but not POTUS IMO. He's a bit feeble.

Ron Paul does not entertain 9-11 Truthers!!!
I will not go any futher then that. You should just paint Romeny and PERRY supporters as Crazy MOROMS like ithey do in south park as Romeny buses thousands of them for his speeches and polls. Often Ron Paul calls to attention the 9-11 Commission report to explain a point on the war on terror and that is it. He has been on the Alex Jones show which is generally a media outlet for DISTRUST OF THE GOVERNMENT and to continue to get a message out about limited GOVERNMENT PERIOD. Even the people who think different things still have a voice and the pursuit of more information about something like 9-11 is not unamerican in anyway though some how a person running for president NEVER ONCE CAMPAIGNED ON 9-11 TRUTH THEORIES. I would be more concerned about people who promote marxist, communist and socialism, one religion view then someone who distrusts government.

For someone concerned that feeble views of a president you somehow think the deciding factor again shows you will not stand for princples. What is your candidate
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Old 06-27-2011, 03:45 PM
 
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For those who are not supporting Ron Paul and the LEANINGS OF LIBERTARIANS in the republican party I ask you to read what I am asking and call for Unity in the party. Ron Paul supporters have tried to keep the government limited in it's size and scope to save America from self destruction. If you truly believe yourself to a republican as many of us Ron Paul REPUBLICANS are we believe the party had lost it's way and we have been sounding the alarm for many years now. Thru the years of BUSH and the republicans who have cost this country and national bankrupty we can not vote for more of the same in 2012. Our currently leaders in the republican party are intellectually bankrupt as is our fiscal situation just as much as the Democrats.
It abandoned its principles on limited government for the liberal UN thinkers and globalist and we are not going stand by want watch you do it. When we disrupt straw polls, conservative events it is only to voice the truth and reason to the insanity we have found ourselves in from republicans who help give us this mess. When people stand up and tell us more of the same is good for the nation and party we BOO because truth and history says otherwise. We are told as children in America that TRUTH AND JUSTICE and LIBERTY mean something and those who sell lip service to our constitution and have a RECORD of LYING AND DOING THE OPPOSITE DO A DISSERVICE TO THE NATION AND OUR FREEDOMS.
The party of Goldwater and Reagan were taken to the likes of FDR, Wilson and LBJ in recent years and we don't need another BUSH prescription drug plan, illegal immigrant supporting, republican in the white house. We don't need people who pretend to be conservative and then lead us to more socialism bailing out banks and have sold out our nation for corporations and the progressive elite. At this time in history a party interested in liberty and the constitutional law must lead a nation or we will find ourselves left with no party and no nation we will truly call our home.

To quote Reagan

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.

The heart and soul in 2008 was trying to get the republican party back from the progressive socialist corruption found in our government and within the banking elite. What did we get? McCain!!!

The question is when you pull the level to vote are sure the person you put into the white house will stand up for liberty first, for America first for our traditions and our constitution. Will he or she take their oath of office SERIOUSLY and you know in your heart they will always tell you the truth and only sign into laws those authorized via the constitution.

If you can not unite under Ron Paul and choose another candidate do they have the principled record and trustworthiness to lead our nation to freedom. Without character and principles at this time the great nation of liberty will fall. When you vote for another candidate ask yourself this? Have they ever supported TARP,?Bailouts, Cap and Trade, are they Pro Choice, believe in government run health care, increased taxes, were once Democrats and when they send our men to fight are they fighting for our freedom or someone else's. Do they have any military experience? Have they delivered 4,000 babies and looked them in the face when they were born knowing life matters, liberty matters and so does integrity. Do the republicans on that stage have any integrity left to lead this nation or will we find ourselves slipping further into tyranny.


For Liberty I choose Ron Paul
Why do you choose your candidate?
I'm a Ron Paul supporter. But it is funny you would
quote Ronald Reagan who I do not believe had libertarian
views. In fact, one of the very reasons Paul ran in 1988 was
to counter the types of things Reagan had done at the time.
Thus, Paul running as a Libertarian. I voted for him then,
and I will vote for him now.

But not under the guise, that he is anything like Ronald
Reagan - knock on wood
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:02 PM
 
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Ron Paul supporters have tried to keep the government limited in it's size and scope to save America from self destruction. If you truly believe yourself to a republican as many of us Ron Paul REPUBLICANS
Besides being somewhat outspoken about abortion issues (though feels the government should not intrude) Ron Paul is a solid libertarian, not a republican

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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
The party of Goldwater and Reagan were taken to the likes of FDR, Wilson and LBJ in recent years and we don't need another BUSH prescription drug plan, illegal immigrant supporting, republican in the white house. We don't need people who pretend to be conservative and then lead us to more socialism bailing out banks and have sold out our nation for corporations and the progressive elite.
?? The bail outs were the epitome of fascism, not socialism. That along with what you mentioned with the calling and passing of amnesty, the corporatist drug plan and trillions in handouts are all in the name of the republicans bowing down to corporatist/fascist big business elites, a far right, not progressive stance.

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The heart and soul in 2008 was trying to get the republican party back from the progressive socialist corruption found in our government and within the banking elite. What did we get? McCain!!!
Again, ??? The heart and soul of 2006, and 2008 was to get the far right wing, america destroying extremists out of office. It was corporatist/fascist corruption to the banking elite. The republicans didn't have a chance in hell of winning 08' after the nightmare Bush and the republicans put this country through and still is burning to this day.

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Do the republicans on that stage have any integrity left to lead this nation or will we find ourselves slipping further into tyranny.
That ship has sailed decades ago. There hasn't been a "real" conservative since Ike. This neo-fascist, ultra right wing republican party of today is set out to lead us into tyranny. Destroy the middle class at all costs, bust unions, trash education, ship jobs overseas, death panels for the elderly, slashing essential services, all in the name to keep spending like maniacs bankrolling the snot out of the rich and big corporations.
The republicans will never fully back Paul, fox news and other right wing outlets can't stand him as he's against the core that is the republican party.

Defund the bloated military, bring the troops home: BIG no-no, there are too many defense contractors on the bankroll, and chickenhawks to rally the goons.

End corporate handouts to big business: Another huge no-no

Anti-fascism, big business needs out of big government: He's done for.

While Ron Paul does have alot I agree with and many things that will be best for this country, the republican party especially with the tea party uprising have shifted so incredibly far right they are off in a fantasy land that they may never come back. Their only hope is to come back into reality, but they have sold their souls to greed and ignorance long ago and will likely never return.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Gone
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Originally Posted by LibertyandJusticeforAll View Post
For those who are not supporting Ron Paul and the LEANINGS OF LIBERTARIANS in the republican party I ask you to read what I am asking and call for Unity in the party. Ron Paul supporters have tried to keep the government limited in it's size and scope to save America from self destruction. If you truly believe yourself to a republican as many of us Ron Paul REPUBLICANS are we believe the party had lost it's way and we have been sounding the alarm for many years now. Thru the years of BUSH and the republicans who have cost this country and national bankrupty we can not vote for more of the same in 2012. Our currently leaders in the republican party are intellectually bankrupt as is our fiscal situation just as much as the Democrats.
It abandoned its principles on limited government for the liberal UN thinkers and globalist and we are not going stand by want watch you do it. When we disrupt straw polls, conservative events it is only to voice the truth and reason to the insanity we have found ourselves in from republicans who help give us this mess. When people stand up and tell us more of the same is good for the nation and party we BOO because truth and history says otherwise. We are told as children in America that TRUTH AND JUSTICE and LIBERTY mean something and those who sell lip service to our constitution and have a RECORD of LYING AND DOING THE OPPOSITE DO A DISSERVICE TO THE NATION AND OUR FREEDOMS.
The party of Goldwater and Reagan were taken to the likes of FDR, Wilson and LBJ in recent years and we don't need another BUSH prescription drug plan, illegal immigrant supporting, republican in the white house. We don't need people who pretend to be conservative and then lead us to more socialism bailing out banks and have sold out our nation for corporations and the progressive elite. At this time in history a party interested in liberty and the constitutional law must lead a nation or we will find ourselves left with no party and no nation we will truly call our home.

To quote Reagan

If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.

The heart and soul in 2008 was trying to get the republican party back from the progressive socialist corruption found in our government and within the banking elite. What did we get? McCain!!!

The question is when you pull the level to vote are sure the person you put into the white house will stand up for liberty first, for America first for our traditions and our constitution. Will he or she take their oath of office SERIOUSLY and you know in your heart they will always tell you the truth and only sign into laws those authorized via the constitution.

If you can not unite under Ron Paul and choose another candidate do they have the principled record and trustworthiness to lead our nation to freedom. Without character and principles at this time the great nation of liberty will fall. When you vote for another candidate ask yourself this? Have they ever supported TARP,?Bailouts, Cap and Trade, are they Pro Choice, believe in government run health care, increased taxes, were once Democrats and when they send our men to fight are they fighting for our freedom or someone else's. Do they have any military experience? Have they delivered 4,000 babies and looked them in the face when they were born knowing life matters, liberty matters and so does integrity. Do the republicans on that stage have any integrity left to lead this nation or will we find ourselves slipping further into tyranny.


For Liberty I choose Ron Paul
Why do you choose your candidate?
Never happen, the right eats their own on a regular basis, too late to stop now.
Casper
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:24 PM
 
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Paul needs to quit the damn Republican crap party of corruption. He needs to run as in independent or a libertarian. Why he has hung on this long to a failed party is beyond me.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:30 PM
 
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This country is doomed when even the people who are claiming liberty as a central overriding tenet to be weighed most heavily against other concerns, are so caught up in the cult of control and social engineering that is part and parcel of being part of the system.

This obsession with politicians, and with the entire concept of being "led," as if adults were children, is every bit as absurd as the Brits cultural obsession with their precious little royalty figureheads.
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:31 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The ultimate power to keep republicans united is Obama. Their will be infighting until there is a nominee. At that point the republicans would Rather have anyone than Obama
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:47 PM
 
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Paul needs to quit the damn Republican crap party of corruption. He needs to run as in independent or a libertarian. Why he has hung on this long to a failed party is beyond me.
Well, he always says it's because it's almost impossible
to run third party etc... But I see your point, and agree.

Not to mention, I hate to have to transfer as a Republican
to vote in the primary, just to get on Republican mailing,
phone, and knock at door lists. And yes, that does include
the postcard from Sarah Palin, wanting me to visit Alaska
on vacation
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