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Old 09-30-2013, 11:46 PM
 
Location: TOVCCA
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And I thought meth was a problem. Why would people want to do this?
A drug expert in New Jersey already said he dosen't think it will catch on there because heroin is readily available and cheap (!)
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:24 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Sounds like a case of "bad batches" having horrible, unintended effects. Does anyone trust a common street chemist to manufacture something they intend to put in their bodies? Goodness, might as well take a swig next time you go to fill up the tank.

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Well at least crack is a derivative of a real drug, cocaine. Krok is a toxic sludge of gasoline and/or paint thinner & hydrochloric acid. But nobody is saying the US is any better, there are plenty of sick junkies that sniff glue, inhale paint & lysol, or inject themselves with whatever chemicals they can find. It's a pathetic life in any country
According to the article, "krok" is made by altering codeine, which is naturally occurring, and derives from the poppy plant.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Earth
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The article posted earlier said it was invented in the U.S. What is different is people making it themselves and getting the formula wrong. They say it has a good use, but I find that hard to believe. We've got so many drugs now, did we really need to introduce this one?
The pharmaceutical Desomorphine was invented in the US. The homemade form was invented in Russia.
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Old 10-01-2013, 12:40 AM
 
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I hsve lost 3siblings as nd a loved to heroin but this new drug is no joke
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Old 10-01-2013, 04:09 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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It's not German Neuling, Krokodil is a perfectly Russian word.
Leave it up to Russians to come up with something as "thrilling" as this drug.
The continuity of the Russian roulette...

Russian roulette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well, Krokodil is the German spelling of crocodile, the Russian word is Крокодил. So I was just wondering why they use the German word in the West instead of the English one...
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Old 10-01-2013, 04:24 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Well, Krokodil is the German spelling of crocodile, the Russian word is Крокодил. So I was just wondering why they use the German word in the West instead of the English one...
Romanization of Russian - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Anyway, here is a pretty shocking documentary about that drug:


Krokodil: Russia's Deadliest Drug (NSFW) - YouTube
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:13 AM
 
Location: New York City
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According to the article, "krok" is made by altering codeine, which is naturally occurring, and derives from the poppy plant.
No, mesomorphine is made by altering codeine. Krok is made by improperly altering codeine and leaving behind petrochemicals & acids in addition to mesomorphine
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Old 10-01-2013, 07:40 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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Ah, OK, just a literal letter-for-letter conversion into the Latin alphabet, that happens to yield the same word.

I assume it is called Krokodil because it seems to eat flesh, right? Since people tend to believe only what they see for themselves, maybe there is a way to demonstrate its disastrous effect on a steak at schools and similar institutions
Just saw some photos on Google, now I feel sick.
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Old 10-04-2013, 09:21 AM
 
Location: New York City
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I assume it is called Krokodil because it seems to eat flesh, right? Since people tend to believe only what they see for themselves, maybe there is a way to demonstrate its disastrous effect on a steak at schools and similar institutions
Just saw some photos on Google, now I feel sick.
Essentially, yes. The petrochemicals & acids at the injection site kill & rot all the surrounding tissue, and whatever enters the bloodstream causes damaged wherever it ends up. The injection sites turn into giant open sores that typically get infected and cause other problems such as gangrene and often lead to amputation. There is also internal organ damage from repeated exposure. As they say, the typical (painful) lifespan of a person using Krokodil is about 2 to 3 years
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Old 10-04-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: in a galaxy far far away
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It's going to be especially sad when more of these cases turn up in local hospitals. The people using this drug aren't likely to be the type to watch the evening news or read health bulletins and warnings. By then, it will be too late for them.
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