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False economic understanding: Mr. Bachman is receiving Medicaid money as business "revenue." Revenue does not automatically translate into personal "income." Unless of course you are now prepared to declare Planned Parenthood as receiving federal money for abortions. That's the very same logic that you are now using to attack Bachmanmn. Funny how that whole line of demarcation thing works, huh?
If the Bachmans run a profitable busiss than ANY REVENUE that they receive contributes to that profit.
Not so nice try but the whole "It's only revenue" argument won't fly.
If the Bachmans truly stood and live by the principles they profess THEY WOULDN'T BE TAKING ANY FEDERAL ENTITLEMENT MONEY AS REVENUE!
It's almost as bad as somebody protesting againsting against drugs getting caught in possession of marijuana, crack, or meth.
It's simple:
IF YOU TALK THE TALK THEN WALK THE WALK. When it comes to this particular issue Michelle Bachman = FAIL!
$137,000 over the last six years????? That probably represents a HUGE LOSS to thier clinic. This is why we limit the number of medicaid patients we see in our practice.
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I haven't accepted any government insurance in my office for almost 6 years, although the commercial insurances aren't much better.
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By law doctors BY LAW have to take medicade before any insurance that is available. Even though it pays pennies on the dollar.
Part of the reason our insurance policies are so high by the way.
Bachmann's husband BY LAW had no choice in accepting that as payment.
It's true that in general the secondary insurance won't process a claim until the primary has processed it, but I doubt anyone on Medicaid would have secondary insurance anyway.
I suppose you could get fancy and turn the receipts back to the Treasury, donate it to charity, make origami mobiles with the checks, etc - but realistically a medical care provider basically has 3 options with respect to Medicaid - accept it and see the patients, don't accept it and turn the patients away, don't accept it and see the patients anyway for free.
Fair point. We don't know his view. But we can make a pretty educated guess, wouldn't you say?
And how can you criticize me for calling Bachmann's husband hypocritical when you turn around and do the same thing to me (ascribe me a point of view you don't know whether I have)? That seems the very essence of hypocrisy.
In any case, I don't see Medicare and Medicaid reform that way. They desperately need reform. That's not at issue. But no one's having that debate. (How do we provide decent health care to our elderly in a way we can afford). They're just cut cut cut, and give all that money to the rich. Who cares how we do it. Just do it.
I was only repeating your sentiment. You said parents who are for choice don't want to abolish schools. I thought your point was Bachmann wants to abolish Medicaid. If not I'm not sure understand your point.
Your characterization of the Republican Medicare reform is off base, I suggest you read Ryan's plan.
As for Ron Paul, he isn't the Republicans and he certainly isn't Bachmann, the person we happen to be discussing.
It certainly isn't fair to savage Bachmann's husband on what you imagine his position to be.
"While Rep. Michelle Bachmann, R-Minn., has forcefully denounced the Medicaid program for swelling the "welfare rolls," the mental health clinic run by her husband has been collecting annual Medicaid payments totaling over $137,000 for the treatment of patients since 2005, according to new figures obtained by NBC News."
"The previously unreported payments are on top of the $24,000 in federal and state funds that Bachmann & Associates, the clinic founded by Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist, received in recent years under a state grant to train its employees, state records show. The figures were provided to NBC News in response to a Freedom of Information request."
I was only repeating your sentiment. You said parents who are for choice don't want to abolish schools. I thought your point was Bachmann wants to abolish Medicaid. If not I'm not sure understand your point.
Your characterization of the Republican Medicare reform is off base, I suggest you read Ryan's plan.
I have. It replaces Medicare direct payments with vouchers to private insurers. Like it or hate it, this is eliminating Medicare as Medicare was created and making something new. Calling the new beast "Medicare" is irrelevant. I can name my dog Medicare, but that don't make it so.
As for Ron Paul, he isn't the Republicans and he certainly isn't Bachmann, the person we happen to be discussing.
Hello? You said "First off, nobody wants to eliminate Medicare o Medicaid" Ron Paul is the heart and soul of the Tea Party movement. Bachmann is very much in his camp.
It certainly isn't fair to savage Bachmann's husband on what you imagine his position to be.
You simply can't attribute Paul's beliefs to Bachmann, especially when they are running against each other.
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