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Old 06-29-2013, 12:19 AM
 
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an id is fraud...

in the sense that the state onerously imposes upon the petson the duty of proving that he has a right to vote... the burden ought to be upon the state to prove the negative...
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Old 06-29-2013, 12:54 AM
 
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But wouldn't that in turn open the system up to someone hacking it and doing exactly what we want to prevent?
Computers are a problem here period. With big money, including Federal, now pushing internet voting, good luck with that.

Best way is in public, by hand. All computers are going to be an issue for this. No such thing as unhackable. So by nature it will not be transparent. We have enough problem with actual recounts, so though the electronic system could be improved greatly I think it only complicates what needs to be simple.

Want to see how bad it is?
Goldman Sachs US election investment
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Old 02-09-2021, 10:25 AM
 
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Trump said there were millions of fraudulent votes in 2016. He spent all of 2020 telling us the election was going to be fraudulent. Either he lied, or he's a weak an ineffectual president unable to do even the most basic actions at the federal level.


Furthermore, he is on the record saying he won Georgia by hundreds of thousands of votes. Did he send his own people in to count the votes? How does he know? Why doesn't he share this information with us? Sounds like a lie.
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Old 02-09-2021, 10:33 AM
 
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. For example, a large percentage of people on the left are convinces that GWB stole at least one, possibly 2 elections by use of fraud and corruption... ?
Hold on right there. Very few Democrats think GWB won by fraud and/or corruption. 2000 was an incredibly close election, that came down to one state. There were multiple recounts, and issues like the hanging chads. So sure, a lot of people thought Gore actually won, but once he conceded we moved on. And I never heard anyone challenge the legitimacy of the 2004 election.

The election of 2000 was like a very close football game where our side thought we scored a touchdown but the referees ruled it was out of bounds. We might think it was a bad call, but we don't accuse the other team of fraud.
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Old 02-09-2021, 10:38 AM
 
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A note for some of the resident liberal whiners: campaign tactics and ads are not election fraud. Pointing out your opponent's record is not fraud not matter how it's spun as one example. Demanding accountability for ethics is not fraud, either.
I don't think anyone has stated that those things are fraud. Also, making it easier for people to vote, especially in a pandemic, is not fraud.
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