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Old 06-30-2011, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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this is a quick and easy way to refill the coffers.
There's nothing easy about it. Do you have any idea how many sales tax jurisdictions and rates there in California? The tax collected must be correct for where the item is being delivered, and the total collected for each individual jurisdiction has to be reported to the BoE.

It may seem easy from the perspective of the state government, but I assure you, it's not easy for the people that have to actually do it.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Surprise, Az
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Let me add that it was big and small businesses with physical locations in California that pushed and supported this tax.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Dallas and Houston? Ummmmmm have you ever been to these cities? Obviously not. Some of the most polluted, crime ridden, poverty stricken third world cities in the entire nation. You couldn't pay me to live in those crap hole of cities. No offense to anyone that does LOL.
I moved to Houston one year ago today (yay!). I have found the city to be wonderful and the people to be among the friendliest I have ever met. I was very surprised by that since it is such a large city. Some parts of the city look ugly but not poverty stricken and certanly not 3rd world. For that you need to go to Miami (the REAL Miami, not the beach).

I've been to California once (not counting airport layovers) and I also found it to be very nice and the people to be somewhat friendly. I wouldn't bash California but their elected officials are fair game. They seem to be ruining a once great state, although I don't live there so I can't be certain.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:06 PM
 
Location: California
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Let me add that it was big and small businesses with physical locations in California that pushed and supported this tax.
It's those business in every state that are pushing it. They say it's "unfair" that they have to collect sales tax while the online retailers do not and keeps them from being competitive. On the other hand, brick and morter stores use more resources and have less to offer in terms of variety. It's a culture clash with the "business as usual" crowed trying to fit a new business model into an old way of doing things. In the end the new way will prevail but it will require a whole new way of thinking and new regulations and most people don't want to deal with that.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:17 PM
 
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given the extremely high number of ebay sellers, Amazon affiliates, and web-based retailers i've seen in the southern california area, i have to think this will have a major impact.
I'm not from California, but I moved my internet company from PA, into OH a few years ago for the very same reason. Where I lived taxed gross income, where I moved to, taxes net. Saved me $100K + a year.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My thread? LOL.

Glad you're paying attention!
I prefer to pay attention where it matters.

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There's nothing easy about it. Do you have any idea how many sales tax jurisdictions and rates there in California? The tax collected must be correct for where the item is being delivered, and the total collected for each individual jurisdiction has to be reported to the BoE.

It may seem easy from the perspective of the state government, but I assure you, it's not easy for the people that have to actually do it.
It doesn't matter when it is local businesses asking for it. If Amazon gets you a $500 product tax free (and free shipping), would you still pay $540 for the same product, with tax included, at your local store? Once again, as with many other laws, this is a case of conflicting priorities.
- As a consumer, I would hate to pay sales tax. I don't like the idea.
- As a local business, I would love the idea to force online commerce be dealt to operate on equal footing with taxes.
- As a state/local government, the priority is to ensure that tax revenues don't suffer as well as struggling local commerce.
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Amazon prefers Seattle for it's highly educated and informed population and workforce. They're adding jobs there and not Texas. The poverty rates in Texas are horrible, so I can't see why a tech company would want to move there.

The economy in Texas is booming because of natural resource industries. I haven't seen any data linking it to the business environment.
My understanding is Austin is booming because of Tech companies relocating operations from California.
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:04 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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This just makes it easier for the state to collect taxes.

They've actually been collecting tax revenue from people who earn over $100k and purchase off the internet for years in California.

But what they collected isn't enough. Plus the standalone stores were missing out on sales, so the retail industry was behind this also.

http://www.boe.ca.gov/ads/news06.htm
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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My understanding is Austin is booming because of Tech companies relocating operations from California.
Start ups tend to thrive on the west coast, more established businesses look for other avenues, and among those avenues are also cheaper labor but qualified populace and Austin offers that. Why do you think it is Austin and not Waco?
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Old 06-30-2011, 03:16 PM
 
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Amazon prefers Seattle for it's highly educated and informed population and workforce. They're adding jobs there and not Texas. The poverty rates in Texas are horrible, so I can't see why a tech company would want to move there.

The economy in Texas is booming because of natural resource industries. I haven't seen any data linking it to the business environment.
1. What is the poverty rate in Texas?
2. What is the racial percentage of each concerning that rate?
3. What country borders Texas?
4. What issues are the states of that countries border currently experiencing issues with?


Now, consider that and make an informed evaluation of the issue that is based on tangible evidence to support such speculation rather than random unsupported claims.
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