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Old 06-30-2011, 02:12 PM
 
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I recently heard of a man going to prison for the death of a woman AND her "unborn child". Why is the death of an unborn child considered a death when someone other than the mother kills the baby but not if the mother kills the baby through abortion? The unborn child is either alive or it is not. It must be a great life for libs, where they can have contradictory views and not have them conflict!

Charles Sands
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Good grief catch a clue. Life isn't fair!
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:13 PM
 
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You know.

It's not your life.

You don't have a right to say what someone does with their body.

She doesn't want to commit 9 months to give birth to the child.

She doesn't want the organism growing inside her body.

She wants it out. It's her body. Not yours. You didn't create that potential human, she did.

Are you reading what your writing?

So if its not your child you shouldnt care?

So should we not have child protective services? I mean hey we can do whatever we want if its MY child right?
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: North Cackelacky....in the hills.
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What are you talking about? That is the case. When the Gov criminalizes something, the demand stays the same, just the supply. The source of the supply, the quality of it, and the risk involved with it.

People are gonna get pregnant, and then want out. You telling me otherwise? People are going to go to whoever will help them.
That was one of the arguments put forward at the time of Roe V. Wade.

It wasn't actually true....well not in any quantifiable numbers.

But it did help get Roe V. Wade made into 'law'.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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was the woman not aware that sex could result in pregnancy and all of these side effects?
Sex is not just for procreation. Otherwise there'd be no need for the female orgasm.

In the end, to answer the OP, if a woman chooses not to be pregnant, it means the death of the child. However, it is not murder nor is it illegal.

If somebody else kills the mother (and subsequently, the child), it is two deaths as well as homicide (whether on purpose or accidental).
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:14 PM
 
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Good grief catch a clue. Life isn't fair!

Wow
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:16 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Are you reading what your writing?

So if its not your child you shouldnt care?

So should we not have child protective services? I mean hey we can do whatever we want if its MY child right?
You can't mandate that people use birth control either.

Who said anything about child protective services. Isn't that for BORN children?

The UNborn aren't here yet. They're not even completely formed human babies, it's not a child it has the POTENTIAL to become a child but it's not a child nor is it a baby.

baby = outside the body

fetus = inside the body
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:18 PM
 
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You can't mandate that people use birth control either.

Who said anything about child protective services. Isn't that for BORN children?

The UNborn aren't here yet. They're not even completely formed human babies, it's not a child it has the POTENTIAL to become a child but it's not a child nor is it a baby.

baby = outside the body

fetus = inside the body

yeah you avoided the whole third trimester abortion which sometimes ends in a child being born ALIVE and then being let die huh? Yeah if I didnt have a good response I would do that too. ANd FYI a baby is fully "formed" around 23 weeks gestation.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:19 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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yeah you avoided the whole third trimester abortion which sometimes ends in a child being born ALIVE and then being let die huh? Yeah if I didnt have a good response I would do that too. ANd FYI a baby is fully "formed" around 23 weeks gestation.
You skated around my question also.

Are you going to start an orphanage for all the unwanted born babies?

Are you going to adopt them all?

Are you going to press for our taxes to be raised to care for the millions born to mothers that didn't want them?

Let's build more jails for all the potential criminals.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:19 PM
 
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Here's the thing. It's not just the whole caring for the child bit. It's the part where pregnancy in and of itself is something that we should not be having to force women to go through.

Let's take a look at the side effects of pregnancy:
Do you honestly think pregnancy, and the propagation of the human race is a bad thing? All the stuff you mentioned is why we should support Planned Parenthood and the like.
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Old 06-30-2011, 02:21 PM
 
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That was one of the arguments put forward at the time of Roe V. Wade.

It wasn't actually true....well not in any quantifiable numbers.

But it did help get Roe V. Wade made into 'law'.
There is no country in the world where Abortion doesn't occur. None. It exist everywhere, legal or no. And in the places where it is illegal, it's not happening in a hospital.
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