why is death of pregnant woman two deaths but abortion not a death? (constitutional, single)

[shorebaby]

Originally Posted by chielgirl

If they had to spend 3 months in the ICU they were not viable outside of the womb without extraordinary measures.

You miss the entire point of viable.
You're being disingenuous if you're saying that they could live without extraordinary measures.
And I'm sure that not all of them survived.

Nice personal anecdote though. Glad they made it through for you, since that's apparently what you wanted.

?? So someone who is not able to survive after a car crash without extraordinary means doesn't have a right to life? After all they are not viable according to your definition, so we have the right to kill them? Hey, how about a newborn without outside help they can't survive, so I guess we can kill them.

[jazzarama]

Originally Posted by VerBoston

I hope you do not sincerely mean this ? I am the father of twins who were born prematurely at the 26th week. I spent 3 months in the NICU and I can tell you from personal experience and observation that babies born before your arbitrary 28 week mark do indeed survive and live !!!

Congratulations.

Medical technology is at the point where half-2/3's of babies born at 24/25 weeks survive. Even at 23 weeks, the survival rate is 20-35 %. At 26/27 weeks, 90% survive.

I guess to rabid 'choicers,' viability means certain survival with no icu.

[JohKnip]

Originally Posted by LuckyGem

No state in the USA permits a 3rd trimester abortion at will.

Only if the health of the mother is in danger.

Third Trimester Abortion Laws: State by State

From your link...

The following states have no post-viability restrictions whatsoever:

1. Alaska
2. Colorado
3. Hawaii
4. Mississippi
5. New Hampshire
6. New Jersey
7. New Mexico
8. Oregon
9. Vermont
10. West Virginia

A person in any of these states can walk into any clinic and have a third trimester abortion with no questions asked. All she needs is to find an abortionist willing to perform it.

[Tony22]

A third trimester abortion? Who the hell would do that.

[Annie53]

Originally Posted by Tony22

A third trimester abortion? Who the hell would do that.

You know who does that Tony? Women who desperately want their baby.

But something goes horribly wrong.

The woman is in danger of losing her life.

The baby is horribly deformed and will suffer terribly only to die soon after birth.

And then, as if losing a child she desperately wanted isn't enough, the pro-life crowd will call her a murderer and persecute her if given the chance.

Sad, isn't it?

As you saw, with your own two eyes, women that were seeking to abort in the third tri-mester, just because they wanted to.....were turned away.

Just more FACTS that pro-lifers refuse to acknowledge.

[laysayfair]

Originally Posted by Annie53

You know who does that Tony? Women who desperately want their baby.

But something goes horribly wrong.

The woman is in danger of losing her life.

The baby is horribly deformed and will suffer terribly only to die soon after birth.

And then, as if losing a child she desperately wanted isn't enough, the pro-life crowd will call her a murderer and persecute her if given the chance.

Sad, isn't it?

As you saw, with your own two eyes, women that were seeking to abort in the third tri-mester, just because they wanted to.....were turned away.

Just more FACTS that pro-lifers refuse to acknowledge.

So, that means there ARE people who want to abort in the third-trimester just because they want to...?

[Annie53]

Originally Posted by laysayfair

So, that means there ARE people who want to abort in the third-trimester just because they want to...?

So what? It is not permitted. What is your point?

[laysayfair]

Originally Posted by Tony22

A third trimester abortion? Who the hell would do that.

Incredible, isn't it?

[Howest2008]

Originally Posted by cpsTN

I recently heard of a man going to prison for the death of a woman AND her "unborn child". Why is the death of an unborn child considered a death when someone other than the mother kills the baby but not if the mother kills the baby through abortion? The unborn child is either alive or it is not. It must be a great life for libs, where they can have contradictory views and not have them conflict!

Charles Sands
37129

Hypocrisy is your answer , the ppl of the United States of America
make laws according to the " Majority Rule " principal and the Majority
has spoken on the Abortion issue.

[OhioChic]

Originally Posted by Annie53

So what? It is not permitted. What is your point?

It IS permitted is the point.