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Old 07-01-2011, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Typical American politics..spend more time blaming the "other guy" rather than roll up your sleeves and make HARD decisions. No one wants to be called a job killer for making cuts or raising taxes.

But tell them they have $$$ and they'll work together to spend it.
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:41 AM
 
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its not they are worthless

but unions dont belong in the PUBLIC sector


PUBLIC unions should not have barganing power...private unions sure..but not PUBLIC unions

the unions make it MADITORY to be a member of the union whether the worker want ot be or not
the union makes it maditory to pay dues, even if you dont want to be a union member..you want the job you will be union

that is union crime

there should not be anytype of barganing for PUBLIC unions...private unions sure..but not publc unions

becaue PUBLIC unions are not supposed to have barganing...period

National Labor Relations Act ("Wagner Act"),Congress enacted the landmark Act in 1935 - the Magna Carta of the American labor movement. It excluded federal, state and local employees. It created the National Labor Relations Board to enforce the rights of labor.

even FDR said so

"""Meticulous attention should be paid to the special relationships and obligations of public servants to the public itself and to the government. All Government employees should realize that the process of collective bargaining, as usually understood, cannot be transplanted into the public service. It has its distinct and insurmountable limitations ... The very nature and purposes of Government make it impossible for ... officials ... to bind the employer ... The employer is the whole people, who speak by means of laws enacted by their representatives ...

"Particularly, I want to emphasize my conviction that militant tactics have no place in the functions of any organization of government employees. Upon employees in the federal service rests the obligation to serve the whole people ... This obligation is paramount ... A strike of public employees manifests nothing less than an intent ... to prevent or obstruct ... Government ... Such action, looking toward the paralysis of Government ... is unthinkable and intolerable."""...FDR 1937

and you want to know WHY it is a problem to have 'collective barganing' in the PUBLIC SECTOR............The problem is there is no REAL "collective bargaining." ......Public sector unions are a client of a Democratic bureaucracy that wants their vote. The taxpayer - the "employer" - isn't a player in the bargaining process......


even look at your local school budget vote...it has NOTHING to due with the PAY/benefits of the teachers..you vote on 1/10th of the entire budget.....





this is why the liberals and the unions are protesting

“Without the mandatory dues from public employee unions, the democrat party is toast. Once this ball is rolling and taxpayers realize how the scam of public unions work, this wave will be unstoppable.
See!

Totally on board with 20,000 PEOPLE, Americans, losing their jobs!

HAPPY about it!


And ya think if Repugs get into office they will CARE if they create jobs or not?


Ya, minimum wage jobs they think we should kiss their ass for....
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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See!

Totally on board with 20,000 PEOPLE, Americans, losing their jobs!

HAPPY about it!


And ya think if Repugs get into office they will CARE if they create jobs or not?


Ya, minimum wage jobs they think we should kiss their ass for....
For the billionth time..the government cannot create jobs except in the government and the Minn government is $5 billion in the hole.
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Typical American politics..spend more time blaming the "other guy" rather than roll up your sleeves and make HARD decisions. No one wants to be called a job killer for making cuts or raising taxes.

But tell them they have $$$ and they'll work together to spend it.
Now the first part is a Centrist attitude, the second the unfortunate reality.
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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See!

Totally on board with 20,000 PEOPLE, Americans, losing their jobs!

HAPPY about it!


And ya think if Repugs get into office they will CARE if they create jobs or not?


Ya, minimum wage jobs they think we should kiss their ass for....
false

totally on board with those union thugs CONTIBUTING THEIR FAIR SHARE

totally on board with REFORMING welfare, food stamps, pensions, and disability...
an example..it is so TIME CONSUMING to get disability(sometimes more than 3 years)...make it EASIER...BUt...also make it have less FRAUD....if you are 100% disabled, then you shouldnt be climbing roofs

but liberals love fraud..its their way of life
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:52 AM
 
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Americans who have jobs are "parasites"?

Americans who don't have jobs are "parasites" ?

Repugs sure hate everyone with equal passion.


Only a Republican could be happy about job loss. No wonder the Repugs in Congress have fought so hard against any effort Obama and the Democrats have made to create jobs....can't have all those "parasites" WORKING!!!

Goverment worker=parasite
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Goverment worker=parasite
Firemen, Police, Sanitation, Teachers, Army, Navy, Marines, ......all parasites, you betcha!
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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false

totally on board with those union thugs CONTIBUTING THEIR FAIR SHARE""



But, as a Repug,you don't want your only god, the wealthy thugs, to contribute theirs...(PS:they love your support)








"""totally on board with REFORMING welfare, food stamps, pensions, and disability...
an example..it is so TIME CONSUMING to get disability(sometimes more than 3 years)...make it EASIER...BUt...also make it have less FRAUD....if you are 100% disabled, then you shouldnt be climbing roofs

but liberals love fraud..its their way of life
Oh, I'm on board with all that but it's such a drop in the bucket compared to the Republican condoned fraud of your only god, the Wealthy Thugs.


I got an idea!

If Unions just changed their name to the Chamber of Commerce, Republicans would agree to any of their criminal shenanigans!!
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:57 AM
 
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Americans who have jobs are "parasites"?

Americans who don't have jobs are "parasites" ?

Repugs sure hate everyone with equal passion.


Only a Republican could be happy about job loss. No wonder the Repugs in Congress have fought so hard against any effort Obama and the Democrats have made to create jobs....can't have all those "parasites" WORKING!!!

No doubt what a bunch of un-american idiots the right are. Trash the economy! Screw the working people! Everything to the rich! NASCAR! Yeeeeeeeee ha!
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Old 07-01-2011, 07:58 AM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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Goverment worker=parasite
Go down to your town's fire station and tell them how worthless they are. Go right ahead.
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