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I tend to agree with you. I have not read all the replies to this thread, but I am sure that someone has mentioned that people who are severely injured, with brain trauma, tend to not be able to work for a living and usually must go on some kind of assistance, including Medicaid.
Since my hard-earned tax dollars go to fund these programs, I feel that *I* have the right to say that people should be forced to wear seat belts. Yes, I am all for personal liberty. But your personal liberty ends where MY pocket book begins.
20yrsinBranson
Feel all you want,you don't however have a right to say what people should do.
Do you feel the same about how much people eat?
How much they drink or smoke?
What sort of sports they play?
Whether they engage in risky sexual practices?
Do YOU have the right to dictate what others do in those circumstances?
I do not like these small laws which control people. In my gut, I know they are wrong. Have seatbelt laws saved thousands of lives, absolutely. I would still wear one even if it was not a law.
I think the government has a "fix what isn't broken syndrome". They make themselves appear busy making rules and regulations; bogged down in minutia, wasting precious resources, but fail to fix the things that are important.
I tend to agree with you. I have not read all the replies to this thread, but I am sure that someone has mentioned that people who are severely injured, with brain trauma, tend to not be able to work for a living and usually must go on some kind of assistance, including Medicaid.
Do they? Are you sure? I have known roughly around 15 people in my life that were injured to such severity and only one of them went on government assistance to which they were already receiving such similar assistance.
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Originally Posted by 20yrsinBranson
Since my hard-earned tax dollars go to fund these programs, I feel that *I* have the right to say that people should be forced to wear seat belts. Yes, I am all for personal liberty. But your personal liberty ends where MY pocket book begins.
20yrsinBranson
Does not their hard earned tax dollars go to fund such as well? I understand what you are getting at, and because you are paying for such a system, it seems reasonable that you should have some say in the conditions to receive it. though does that not point out a bigger problem? Such as, government systems as such are incompatible with individual liberties as they require the removal of individual liberties to offer such as you make in your argument? You pay taxes, you should have a say right?
What of those who do not use such systems though? What of those who have had accidents and the like and yet completely fund themselves through their own money or money from their family and friends donating? Since those people never meet your condition, how can you be justified in infringing on the choices they make?
I love nanny statists,they don't even realise what little control freaks they really are.
I think the growing problem is people do not think past their own self interest in any given issue. They think "Seat belts are safe, we should remove the choice for peoples own good" and at each issue, they evaluate their personal opinion to the matter and if they agree with it, carry on to think that it should be mandated on others.
It is a result of not teaching individual liberty and the values and responsibilities of freedom. I was taught it in school when I was young, they do not teach it anymore so people do not consider it when they agree with such infringements.
I always suspected Americans secretly wanted to be anarchists.
Oh come on now, don't you think that is a dishonest summary?
The concept of individual liberty is a brilliant one. In the very statement of such, it not only applies freedom of choice for all, but also protects everyone from all.
I can not infringe on your individual liberties. Any action I take to which directly infringes on your liberties be it through intention or severe recklessness, is a violation of the concept.
This is counter to Anarchist ideology which does not support the protection of someones liberty, but simply promotes the freedom of one to act as they choose with disregard to that of any other. That isn't the same as individual liberty.
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