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Old 07-02-2011, 04:35 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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This needs to be repeated. Raising the debt ceiling was never a problem for Republicans until Obama became President. It's pretty amazing, really.

the debt ceiling should have never ever been raised past 1 trillion and even that is too much.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:44 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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sure are a lot of different obama's out there wich one is real?
O is genuine, real, focused, caring and motivated - only in the most recent moment of his life.

AKA 'Campaign Mode'.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:47 AM
 
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When George W. Bush took office the debt
We hear this all the time.

So, can you answer 'WHY didn't O fix it instead of CONTINUING it?'

C'mon, inquiring minds want to know.
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Old 07-02-2011, 04:51 AM
 
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Tea party Republicans would be against it, no doubt about it.

and do what, instead? i assume you mean 'cut spending', and if so, i'd be really curious exactly how much, and where.
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:50 AM
 
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We hear this all the time.

So, can you answer 'WHY didn't O fix it instead of CONTINUING it?'

C'mon, inquiring minds want to know.

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When George W. Bush took office
the debt limit was 5.95 trillion. The national debt was 5.73 when bush first took office. When he left office our national debt was 10.63 trillion. So, how did the national debt double under eight years of bush's reign?
Let's add the rest of the quote of mine to which you referred.

Obama has been working on it. When he took office he inheirted the worst mess this country has ever been in. The damage Bush did will not be repaired overnight, or in four years. He did try to work bi-partisan, but he quickly learned the republicans were only going to obstruct and block anything he tried. I also believe when Obama first took office he didn't realize the extent of the damage Bush and company inflicted on this country.

Now what I think is we will have to cut expenses, but not just to the poor and middle class, but to other areas as well. Additionally, we will have to raise revenue if we are to recover.

Politicians, whether they are republican or democrat are too busy grand standing, and blocking what the other side suggests.
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Old 07-02-2011, 07:54 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Both sides know that it is going to get raised.....probably 2.3 Trillion just to get us to the end of 2012. No two ways about it..........the national debt will be 20-22 Trillion by the end of 2016.
No it won't, not if no one is buying the debt.

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the debt ceiling should have never ever been raised past 1 trillion and even that is too much.
That's what happens when government starts believing its own propaganda, disinformation and lies.

Seriously, this look like deja vu ala the Soviet Union circa 1970.

You saw what happened 20 years later.
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Old 07-02-2011, 09:51 AM
 
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Uh .. No.

We have a Republic!
Uhh...

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b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (as a nation) having such a form of government
Republic - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
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Old 07-02-2011, 10:55 AM
 
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No it won't, not if no one is buying the debt.



That's what happens when government starts believing its own propaganda, disinformation and lies.

Seriously, this look like deja vu ala the Soviet Union circa 1970.

You saw what happened 20 years later.
Can we start picking names now?
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Old 07-02-2011, 12:03 PM
 
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Let's add the rest of the quote of mine to which you referred.

Obama has been working on it. When he took office he inheirted the worst mess this country has ever been in. The damage Bush did will not be repaired overnight, or in four years. He did try to work bi-partisan, but he quickly learned the republicans were only going to obstruct and block anything he tried. I also believe when Obama first took office he didn't realize the extent of the damage Bush and company inflicted on this country.

Now what I think is we will have to cut expenses, but not just to the poor and middle class, but to other areas as well. Additionally, we will have to raise revenue if we are to recover.

Politicians, whether they are republican or democrat are too busy grand standing, and blocking what the other side suggests.
O didn't inherit anything. He was part of the cause of it. And we all know it. Some will not admit that. To set O away from this is wrong.
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Old 10-17-2013, 11:33 AM
 
Location: North America
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In 2006 - Obama was the "I wanta be Prez" dude.
In 2011 - Obama is the "I WON" dude.

All of 2009, 2010, (so far in 2011) Obama is the "Campaigner in Chief".

It is what it is.
...and the beat goes on.
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