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Old 07-14-2011, 08:35 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Its not the GOP

Haha, ooh when I thought you were done embarassing yourself.. you proved me wrong

Congress is made up of the Senate and the HOUSE..

We dont have Senators and Congressmen, we have Senators and Represenatives.. They ALL are Congressmen
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And, congress is not the senate and the house. Go take a civics class and come back later. Seriously.

Senators are not congressman. Sorry buddy.

I've not once heard, Congressman Harry reid, it's Senator Reid for a reason.

Last edited by Ibginnie; 07-15-2011 at 06:54 PM.. Reason: please address the topic, not other posters
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:35 PM
 
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Actually it was the Democratic Congress that did that. They promised to address spending cuts in 1987 and of course lied and did not address them.

But hey, don't let the truth get in your way.
And dont forget the bill passed by the Democratic Congress which said all spending bills must be paid for, and then they didnt pay for ONE of them..
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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The Washington Post article is not accurate. Take a look at who they say controlled the House.
According to the article it shows the Republicans controlled the House from 1980 through 1995, and the Democrats controlled the House from 1995 through 2007, and then the Republicans were in control of the House again from 2007 through 2011. The reality is exactly the opposite of what the Washington Post published.
Additionally, they are "cherry picking" their data. The Debt Ceiling did not begin in 1980, but rather with the Second Liberty Bond Act of 1917. This is the complete list:
  • February 2010 - $14.294 trillion
  • December 2009 - $12.394 trillion
  • February 2009 - $12.104 trillion
  • October 2008 - $11.315 trillion
  • July 2008 - $10.615 trillion
  • September 2007 - $9.815 trillion
  • March 2006 - $8.965 trillion
  • November 2004 - $8.184
  • May 2003 - $7.384 trillion
  • June 2002 - $6.4 trillion
  • August 1997 - $5.95 trillion
  • March 1996 - $5.5 trillion
  • August 1993 - $4.9 trillion
  • April 1993 - $4.37 trillion
  • November 1990 - $4.145 trillion
  • October 1990 - $3.23 trillion
  • November 1989 - $3.1227 trillion
  • August 1989 - $2.87 trillion
  • September 1987 - $2.8 trillion
  • August 1987 - $2.352 trillion
  • July 1987 - $2.32 trillion
  • October 1986 - $2.3 trillion
  • August 1986 - $2.111 trillion
  • December 1985 - $2.0787 trillion
  • November 1985 - $1.9038 trillion
  • October 1984 - $1.8238 trillion
  • July 1984 - $1.573 trillion
  • May 1984 - $1.52 trillion
  • November 1983 - $1.49 trillion
  • May 1983 - $1.389 trillion
  • September 1982 - $1.2902
  • June 1982 - $1.1431 trillion
  • September 1981 - 1.0798 trillion
  • September 1981 - $999.8 billion
  • February 1981 - $985 billion
  • December 1980 - $935.1 billion
  • June 1980 - $925 billion
  • September 1979 - $879 billion
  • April 1979 - $830 billion
  • August 1978 - $798 billion
  • October 1977 - $752 billion
  • June 1976 - $700 billion
  • March 1976 - $627 billion
  • November 1975 - $595 billion
  • February 1975 - $577 billion
  • June 1974 - $495 billion
  • December 1973 - $475.7 billion
  • October 1972 - $465 billion
  • March 1972 - $450 billion
  • March 1971 - $430 billion
  • June 1970 - $395 billion
  • April 1969 - $377 billion
  • June 1967 - $358 billion
  • March 1967 - $336 billion
  • June 1966 - $330 billion
  • June 1965 - $328 billion
  • June 1964 - $324 billion
  • November 1963 - $315 billion
  • May 1963 - $309 billion
  • July 1962 - $308 billion
  • March 1962 - $300 billion
  • June 1961 - $298 billion
  • June 1960 - $293 billion
  • June 1959 - $295 billion
  • September 1958 - $288 billion
  • February 1958 - $280 billion
  • July 1956 - $278 billion
  • August 1954 - $281 billion
  • June 1946 - $275 billion
  • April 1945 - $300 billion
  • June 1944 - $260 billion
  • April 1943 - $210 billion
  • March 1942 - $125 billion
  • February 1941 - $65 billion
  • June 1940 - $49 billion
  • December 1939 - $45 billion
  • December 1919 - $43 billion
Source: US Debt Ceiling History
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:37 PM
 
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If you don't know that the GOP has the majority in congress, I will no longer address your posts. Please leave the thread.

And, congress is not the senate and the house. Go take a civics class and come back later. Seriously.
haha, someone kill the thread.. I cant take the ignorance anymore..

Who makes up the Congress

It is bicameral, comprising the House of Representatives and the Senate
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Financial experts have said we need to cut spending and increase revenue through tax increases, both of which the President is trying to get done. Meanwhile, the GOP are taking pledges wedging themselves in to ridiculous positions.
They really aren't wedging themselves into a ridiculous position. Raising taxes will have litte impact on the debt. History has shown when taxes are raised, politicians simply spend more. Increasing taxes will have minimal to no impact on the debt.

The left continuously claims we need to spend our way out of this recession. There isn't a more effective way to boost consumer spending than to allow people to keep more of what they make. We have seen how inefficient movement spending is in creating jobs. Simply look at the cost per job generated by stimulus.

Finally can someone please point to one concrete spending cut that has been offered by Obama. There is none. This is a typical Washington game. Increase taxes and well have some vague spending cuts down the road. We need to end this cycle.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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haha, someone kill the thread.. I cant take the ignorance anymore..

Who makes up the Congress

It is bicameral, comprising the House of Representatives and the Senate
Nice..Answers.com..I'll make sure I tell Senator Pelosi.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:42 PM
 
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Nice..Answers.com..I'll make sure I tell Senator Pelosi.
How about the Library of Congress
Government Resources - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Please tell me you are too young to post here because I refuse to believe anyone old enough to vote, doesnt know that Congress is the House and the Senate..
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Nice..Answers.com..I'll make sure I tell Senator Pelosi.
You're simply wrong. Congress is made up of the House of Representatives and the Senate. Harry Reid has refused to bring a budget up for a vote in 2 years.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:50 PM
 
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They really aren't wedging themselves into a ridiculous position. Raising taxes will have litte impact on the debt. History has shown when taxes are raised, politicians simply spend more. Increasing taxes will have minimal to no impact on the debt.

The left continuously claims we need to spend our way out of this recession. There isn't a more effective way to Boston consumer spending than to allow people to keep more of what they make. We have seen how inefficient movement spending is in creating jobs. Simply look at the cost per job generated by stimulus.

Finally can someone please point to one concrete spending cut that has been offered by Obama. There is none. This is a typical Washington game. Increase taxes and well have some vague spending cuts down the road. We need to end this cycle.
From the Hill:

Obama directed the Defense Department and other national-security agencies to slash $400 billion by 2023.

From the New Republic:

The most ambitious proposal Obama has put forth is a “grand bargain” that would reduce net deficits by more than $4 trillion over the next ten years, primarily through spending cuts that would affect virtually every aspect of federal operations.
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Old 07-14-2011, 08:51 PM
 
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Nice..Answers.com..I'll make sure I tell Senator Pelosi.
Pelosi is not a senator.
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