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Old 07-05-2011, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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I'm just trying to see where in the op it says ANYTHING about stealing..

 
Old 07-05-2011, 12:59 PM
 
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Why do they have to be termed Radical?

Why arent these people viewed as more devout.

It seems to me that those who advocate the theft of this temples treasure, are the radicals.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:11 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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You doubt my suitability as a pastor because I actually believe in property rights? LOL...ok.

I have said on this thread a few times that yes--they would do well to sell it and help the poor. If it were a western church i would absolutely hope they would do that.

Having said that, I question your suitability as an American citizen if you think it's your right to take what is not your's under the guise of humanity. You're not willing to give me your paycheck, but you're happy to tell others how to spend their money.

Shame on you.
I am not an American citizen and I don't think I would want to be one.
Anyway, the object makes a huge different. I am against taking the possessions of private people (which doesn't mean that I think it is good when they pile up stuff and we do have progressive taxation to reduce that, at least in theory). But a temple or church is not a private person.
I am paying way more taxes than I have to according to law, i.e. voluntarily out of generosity. So don't give me that paycheck crap...
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:14 PM
 
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To a certain extent this whole thing also highlights the flaws of Hinduism as a religion. Believers think they get favorable treatment by their gods when they give them material stuff in temples.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:18 PM
 
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I am not an American citizen and I don't think I would want to be one.
Anyway, the object makes a huge different. I am against taking the possessions of private people (which doesn't mean that I think it is good when they pile up stuff and we do have progressive taxation to reduce that, at least in theory). But a temple or church is not a private person.
I am paying way more taxes than I have to according to law, i.e. voluntarily out of generosity. So don't give me that paycheck crap...
You do realize the temple is not government owned, right? I'm not in India, and honestly don't know "who" owns it...but I doubt it belongs to the public.

I have a hard time understanding how you or anyone can advocate for seizing and redistributing wealth, but don't want to be the first to donate your own paycheck. I call that selfish.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:24 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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You do realize the temple is not government owned, right? I'm not in India, and honestly don't know "who" owns it...but I doubt it belongs to the public.

I have a hard time understanding how you or anyone can advocate for seizing and redistributing wealth, but don't want to be the first to donate your own paycheck. I call that selfish.
And I have a hard time understanding how you can not see the difference.
I need my very modest income to survive. Those temple guys don't need 20 billion dollars to survive, up until recently they did not even know they had that enormous treasure in their basement. Let those priests or whatever have their modest income and redistribute everything beyond that...
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:29 PM
 
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Once again another confirmation that religion is the root of all evil and that the world would be a lot better place without it.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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blah, blah, blah
What is the main purpose of a mission? Is it not to encourage people to join the church?
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:30 PM
 
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And I have a hard time understanding how you can not see the difference.
I need my very modest income to survive. Those temple guys don't need 20 billion dollars to survive, up until recently they did not even know they had that enormous treasure in their basement. Let those priests or whatever have their modest income and redistribute everything beyond that...
So the dollar amount is the determining factor? What if it was $5 B? Is that too much? $100 M? How much is too much?

You seem to be missing the point. It is irrelevant how much it is. What gives you the right to determine how someone else spends their money? Who are you to decide? It's not your money any more than your paycheck belongs to me.
 
Old 07-05-2011, 01:39 PM
 
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So the dollar amount is the determining factor? What if it was $5 B? Is that too much? $100 M? How much is too much?

You seem to be missing the point. It is irrelevant how much it is. What gives you the right to determine how someone else spends their money? Who are you to decide? It's not your money any more than your paycheck belongs to me.
I don't care what SOMEONE does with their money, but a temple or church is not a person. And for the x. time, your payback analogy is screwed...

As I said the problem is basically the religion itself. People make their material sacrifices to gods, so for all secular people the question is who does the stuff actually belong to as there are no gods? Of course it does not belong to anyone working at the temple as they are not those gods.
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