Can Obama wiggle out of this one? (Iran, statistics, weapon)
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It is such a brutal regime. I read the story from someone who escaped this place about how they executed this family that they found in possession of a bible. Words cannot express just how they killed these people. Far too graphic to post here.
Last edited by 73-79 ford fan; 07-10-2011 at 03:24 AM..
One of us is in DEEP denial in trying to pin something that won't stick.
<hint> Iraq will be remembered as America's biggest mistake long after everyone has forgotten all about the nonissue with Libya. And it was absolutely Bush's (and/or Cheney's) executive decision. Don't take my word for it. Read the congressional Iraq resolution for yourself.
Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, 5 months before hostilities began.
Not saying I agree with either but no one recalls the current administration even making an attempt to do anything similar.
Congress passed the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, 5 months before hostilities began.
If you read the resolution that congress passed, it puts full responsibility for deciding on military force back on Bush. And, of course, Bush got that congressional approval after running a months-long campaign of disinformation and outright lies designed specifically to manufacture consent with his position.
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Not saying I agree with either but no one recalls the current administration even making an attempt to do anything similar.
The current situation in Iraq doesn't in any way mirror Bush's invasion of Iraq, either.
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The most likely cause is that they didn't.
Because there are no Americans in Libya. There have been no American casualties. Obama didn't start a conflict. Bush did. And as everyone alive now knows, he based his "justification" on a bag of lies.
Equating Iraq with Libya simply doesnt work at any level.
Conservos are so ready to dismiss Bush's unjustified invasion as a "simple mistake", which it isn't. Yet they're spittle-spewing insane over Libya.
This war was sold to us as humanitarian yet the amount of human suffering going on in North Korea is much worse than Libya. We are being lied to. If hell really existed it would be North Korea.
You are correct these poor people have grass stew or tree bark steak to eat while Kim Jong Il lives like a king.
skoro, Technology such as man flying does not negate action of involvement of personnel in a conflict.
My point is only that Bush went to Congress, the current Administration did not.
I don't discount "Bush's War" as many refer to it as a simple mistake. It was a big mistake.
I do know however that what was presented was also the thinking of other countries also at the time, or all were lying internationally.
That may be the case.
Now that there is dissatisfaction in the Country over his actions Obama still plays the game with skirting the proper channels of legal advice on his moving forward and continuing his action against a non threat to the U.S..
skoro, Technology such as man flying does not negate action of involvement of personnel in a conflict.
My point is only that Bush went to Congress, the current Administration did not.
I don't discount "Bush's War" as many refer to it as a simple mistake. It was a big mistake.
I do know however that what was presented was also the thinking of other countries also at the time, or all were lying internationally.
That may be the case.
No, other countries warned Bush that he was wrong. And they were right about that. Bush was wrong.
"Boycott France!" Remember that? Turns out they were right As were Russia and Germany. And the UN.
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Now that there is dissatisfaction in the Country over his actions Obama still plays the game with skirting the proper channels of legal advice on his moving forward and continuing his action against a non threat to the U.S..
Bush started a war where none existed.
Obama lent aid to NATO allies in a pre-existing conflict.
No, other countries warned Bush that he was wrong. And they were right about that. Bush was wrong.
"Boycott France!" Remember that? Turns out they were right As were Russia and Germany. And the UN.
Bush started a war where none existed.
Obama lent aid to NATO allies in a pre-existing conflict.
The two situations are not analogous.
The U.N. was right? Why was there 17 U.N. resolutions against Iraq for then if they were correct? Russia Germnany and France were still doing business with Saddam that they did not want disturbed...their hands are dirty too.
"Obama lent aid to NATO allies in a pre-existing conflict."
An internal conflict that NATO & Obama went into together.
You try to make it sound like they were Knights on white horses and Obama came to their aid as a reinforcement.
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Irrationality isn't good policy...
