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Old 07-11-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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Thanks for a laugh. Do you live in the REAL WORLD? Obama has tanked the economy all by his lonesome.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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House GOP = Zero job bills.

Some of them would love to see our nation default. Only thing these clowns care about is being in power so they can privatize EVERYTHING.
uhm

there is NO SUCH THING as a jobs bill

you want jobs

lower/eliminate the corporate tax
lower the income tax...better yet get rid of a stupid income tax that doesnt collect all income(especially if you work off the books) and start taxing spending (a consumption tax)
increase the import tarriffs

get the government out of the way
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:50 PM
 
Location: USA
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The House GOP also doesn't want to cut our bloated defense budget. Just more proof that they really don't care about the deficit.

House GOP balks at defense cuts - David Rogers - POLITICO.com
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:54 PM
 
Location: St. Joseph Area
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He took the debt to an all new level in about 2 year's time. There was still hope in 2008....but Skippy plowed right through that when he pushed through is $2 in stimulus and HCR, then his $3.5 T budget.

You cannot honestly put all of the blame squarely on Obama. There was Bush and Reagan as well. You guys can argue that he hasn't been able to get us out of this mess, but he certainly didn't get us into it. there were other factors involved there.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The House GOP also doesn't want to cut our bloated defense budget. Just more proof that they really don't care about the deficit.

House GOP balks at defense cuts - David Rogers - POLITICO.com
oh please,,,defense isnt the biggie

from 2008 to present

defense spending has increased 16%....... 593b to 673b
medicare spending has increase 29%....... 386b to 498b
medicaid spending has increased 44%..... 201b to 299b.....medicare/ciad makes up nearly 800 billion of our spending and is INCREASED big time each year
ss spending has increased 17% ........ 612B to 719b

the budget 'projects' the costs yearly for 10 years beyond

by fy 15(just 3 years from now)

ss federal COST will be................ 900 billion
mediCARE federal COST will be...... 650 billion
mediCAID federal cost will be........ 400 billion

for a total of just those 3.........over 2 trillion A YEAR, and rising every year

in fact obama's projected DEFICITS will be nearly 1 trillion a year for the next 10 years...and that's just the "on-budget" stuff..the "off-budget" stuff like emergency funding to flood/tornado areas,or funding to other countries..is straight to the debt



revenue from 2000 to 2008 went up over a half a trillion (2.09 trillion in 2000, and 2.74 trillion in 2008 (numbers are down currently with the recession) ....so its not a revenue problem....and spending has gone from a FY 2001 a budget of 2 trillion to a 2008 budget of 2.9 trillion.. to a 2010 budget of 3.8 trillion.....its the spending that's killing us


governmet spending will do nothoing to get the jobs back

what the government should do:
cut/eliminate the corporate tax (we have the highest corporate rate in the WORLD)
eliminate all the bush/clinotn/bush/obama freetrade agreements
bring back IMPORT TARRIFFS (to include on american compaines making their products in mexico like GE)
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:57 PM
 
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The Whitehouse plan is actually for $4 trillion in cuts over 10 years. House GOP plan is around $2 trillion with no plans at increasing revenue.

And yet the GOP is supposed to be the deficit hawks. They do not care about the deficit, only power.
That's what I mean. 3 in cuts and 1 in new revenue would add up to 4 trillion in deficit reduction. The GOP looks weak right now.
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Old 07-11-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: USA
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That's what I mean. 3 in cuts and 1 in new revenue would add up to 4 trillion in deficit reduction. The GOP looks weak right now.
Ahh, got it.

Yes they do look weak right now. They're trapped.

Imagine the ads for 2012. They pretty much write themselves.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:00 PM
 
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Now there's an "agendy" if I have ever seen one!
The "agenda" is to reduce the deficit. If the GOP can't accept a deal that is 75% cuts, then they are spoiled brats who stomp their feet because it isn't exactly what they want.
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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What's an "agendy"?
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Old 07-11-2011, 02:17 PM
 
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What's an "agendy"?
ask the OP, he used it in the title.
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