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The girl was refused the operation because it's a experimental invasive, potentially life threatening surgery (given her health problems now), that even according the researchers would not have done anything.
You don't get to have whatever surgery you want in any system, including the US system. If you want to try that, go try and have brain surgery on a whim and see if some one will pay for it.
Quit reading the Daily Fail too, it rots your brain.
The girl was refused the operation because it's a experimental invasive, potentially life threatening surgery (given her health problems now), that even according the researchers would not have done anything.
You don't get to have whatever surgery you want in any system, including the US system. If you want to try that, go try and have brain surgery on a whim and see if some one will pay for it.
Well, this insurance company decided to deny her. I think she has a good chance for a lawsuit. What do you think?
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Quit reading the Daily Fail too, it rots your brain.
No, you don't understand...this isn't the Daily Show. It's the Guardian.
Well, this insurance company decided to deny her. I think she has a good chance for a lawsuit. What do you think?
No, you don't understand...this isn't the Daily Show. It's the Guardian.
I have no idea how medial lawsuits work in the UK...why would you ask?
This is a none issue you know. I see now what you are trying to do with it ("danger Will Robinson!!") but it's a FAIL.
Why didn't one of the private health companies stepped in. Lots of people have died because private health companies refused to fund operations but cons have no problem with that
Well, this insurance company decided to deny her. I think she has a good chance for a lawsuit. What do you think?
Do you know English law? Do you know their rules concerning unapproved experimental surgery? Do you know anything about patients suing for surgery that doesn't work? If you don't, it's really a futile guess.
If it was in the US, it wouldn't even pass the laugh test.
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No, you don't understand...this isn't the Daily Show. It's the Guardian.
It's a good thing this lady didn't need one of those gastric bands that have been all the rage by members of NHS, Inc.
Perhaps they're fearful she'd reproduce at more than her allotted maximum of 2 children?
China and the UK are almost on opposite sides of the world, I can't fathom how you'd manage to confuse them.
Does anyone want to compare the amount of Americans who are denied life saving surgery by insurance companies with the amount of Brits denied life saving surgery by the NHS? Now that would be helpful, instead of relying on anecdotes from a tabloid.
Yeah, the insurance company was right denying her benefits this time. I'm glad British residents can opt out of this program and go with a competing company instead. Hopefully, lawyers are on the case and will sue this NHS insurance company.
Note to self: don't get sick.
I am a little bit confused by your various posts.
First, she is not being denied the operation. But you don't get an operation without supporting information from your primary care physician (GP). Probably exactly the same thing would happen in the US or any other developed country.
A spokesperson for NHS Hull said: 'To date, the application in question has not been agreed as, crucially, insufficient supporting information has been provided to allow due consideration to take place.
'Any requested procedures must also fall in line with the provider trust's priorities for service development and delivery.
'The patient's clinician has been invited to provide the necessary clarification, receipt of which should enable the patient's case to be progressed within the PCT.'
Second, the NHS is not an insurance company. Where did you get that idea?
Third, in the UK you have an absolute right to purchase private health care and buy private health care insurance.
Fourth, this is reported in the Mail and not the Guardian.
Fifth, there are no limits on how many children you can have in the UK. You are obviously confusing the UK with China.
Ah, a Daily Mail article. I guess there wasn't any true stories out there. Sadly the US equivalent isn't publishing any more, but their website is still out there: Weekly World News*|*The World's Only Reliable News!
I wanted to put this article about where the Daily Mail normally ranks, behind the stories about Bigfoots baby. However, let us look at it like it was real:
A woman is refused free experimental surgery because the doctors do not have evidence it would help enough to warrant the risk of the surgery.
Let us look at that again: Woman being trated only moderatly better than an American is a big scandal. Big enough that the newspaper makes a headline. This is considered sufficiently big news to warrant a big news item.
Does anyone see this making a headline in the USA? Uninsured woman refused experimental surgery for free? Because there isn't enough evidence it would help? That would be big news in the US? Lots of outrage? Because it happens rarely enough to be big news when it does, like in the UK?
Happily, she is still a lot better off than she would be in the USA.
The NHS is far more responsive to customer pressure than an insurance company. As witness the headline.
She can get surgery privatly if she thinks it'll really do her some good. Private surgery is a lot cheaper in the UK, after all. Or, as an EU citizen, a simple change of adress will get her in on a different health care scheme in a different country.
What would be her options in the USA? Does anyone see her getting insurance? Pre-existing condition anyone?
There is a reason why the NHS beats the US system so badly, and the fact that this is big news in the UK illustrates that harshly.
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