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Old 07-15-2011, 11:09 AM
 
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Get out of our lives government. The EPA is doing more to destroy our economy and way of life than anything. They are the SS troops of the Obama administration.

"When the EPA was enacting stricter smog standards in the '90s, critics said some communities would have to sacrifice things like 4th of July fireworks to comply. Then-EPA-head Carol Browner dismissed such talk as "nothing more than scare tactics" from polluters. "They are false," she said in 1977. "They are wrong. They are manipulative."
Tell that to Wichita.
Few would think of this south-central city in Kansas as having a big smog problem. But under current standards it's now one day away from breaching the EPA's standard for ozone, the main ingredient in smog.
That's because the city's 4th of July fireworks pushed its ozone levels over the EPA limit for the third day this year. One more violation and it could find itself forced to produce an EPA-approved smog-cutting plan that would, as the Wichita Eagle reported, "cost taxpayers and businesses millions of dollars."
Now, the EPA is expected to announce later this month if it'll tighten the smog standard even more. Doing so would shove still more cities into the "polluted" category and leave many more with just a fireworks display between them and costly EPA mandates.
And make no mistake: The price tag will be big. The EPA puts the cost at upward of $90 billion a year. But the Manufacturers Alliance says it'll be closer to $1 trillion, and will cost millions of jobs as companies spend increasingly large amounts of money to scrub increasingly small amounts of pollutants out of the air."

EPA Vs. Fireworks - Investors.com
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:14 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Because we all know how non-essential (relatively) clean air is, amirite?
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:17 AM
 
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Because we all know how non-essential (relatively) clean air is, amirite?
Darnit, beat me to the strawman
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:23 AM
 
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Well if Wichita had manage their air quality better it wouldn't have gotten to this point... I think that it is odd that Kansas has some of the highest taxes in this country and yet... where is the money going? Someone is pocketing it...
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:27 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Because we all know how non-essential (relatively) clean air is, amirite?
Lets try applying some common sense shall we? The auto manufacturers have reduced emmissions by something like 98%, for a cost of something like $2000 per vehicle. Does it make sense to add an additional $10000 (for example) to reduce another 1/2 percent? Most people that have some math skills would say that is flippin' stupid. But not, apparently, those that work for the governmenet making and enforcing regulations.

More stringent regulations are jobs bills for more enforcement personnel, arguably the real goal.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Syracuse, New York
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The EPA does not count days with fireworks as "smog days". These are viewed as "exceptional event" days.

Just to be safe, maybe Wichita should schedule a few more firework shows. Or cut down on air pollution. Take your pick!
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:32 AM
 
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Apparently nobody has read the entire link. What a shock.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:41 AM
 
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Apparently nobody has read the entire link. What a shock.
Actually. Several of us did, then took steps to ensure that the article was 100% honest. Which, it actually wasn't. Fireworks are considered "exceptional events" and therefore their pollution is not counted. "Exceptional Events" also attributed to Wichita's other days of being "over the limit" (but not "under arrest"). So technically Wichita has never actually be over the federal limits for pollution this year.
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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The Koch Bros. surrogate is at it again I see....
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Old 07-15-2011, 11:54 AM
 
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Again read the entire link. Why is this so difficult?
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