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White people invented scalping. Back when they were waging warfare on horseback in Central Asia (a few thousand years ago), they'd scalp their enemies, and build a stockade of spears with their slain enemies' heads impaled on top. The chief would have a victory stockade like that around his tent. They drank out of gold-lined cups make from human skulls. One of those was found by archeologists as far west as Germany. Closer to our time, Germanic tribes were hired by the Roman army in their wars of conquest around Europe, because the Germans were known for their extraordinary fierceness and brutality. Archaeologists have found severed heads in Danish bogs.
Barbarous bloodlust is not exclusive to any one ethnicity.
Which don't let the Aztecs off the hook for their nasty beliefs. There's plenty of bad stuff from any race of people if 1 looks far back enough.
The statements by the individuals referenced, included where and when those statements were published. Whether or not they still exist on those websites archives, I don't know, but you're welcome to investigate. But it's really not relevant to say "they" don't post that type of message anymore. Do they need to restate that message in some particular weekly news letter in order to refresh memories? You know, the KKK has taken on a more subtle approach these days too. Does that mean they are no longer the KKK?
Why do so many people want to try to make excuses or offer cover for these pieces of crap? They say they want to ethnically cleanse "Aztlan" of all non-Chicanos .... does it really matter whether they said it last week or last year? Is it not sufficient enough evidence that they march in protests all over the country complaining about immigration laws while flying the Mexican damned flag? Is that not a GD clue?
I mean really? Come on. You're demonstrating some obvious intellectual laziness here, because it's REALLY EASY to verify this stuff. And just to prove it, I'll do it for you this time ... next time, do your own homework, as I'm not being paid to do it for you.
"Each word in MEChA symbolizes a great concept in terms of la causa. Movimiento means that the organization is dedicated to the movement to gain self-determination for our people. Estudiantil, identifies the organization as a student group for we are part of our Raza's future. At the heart of the name is the use of the identity: Chicano. At first seen as a negative word, now taken for a badge of honor. In adopting their new identity, the students committed themselves to return to the barrios, colonias, or campos and together, struggle against the forces that oppress our gente. Lastly, the affirmation that we are Indigenous people to this land by placing our movement in Aztlan, the homeland of all peoples from Anahuak".
Do you need that interpreted for you too? Or is that plain enough English?
Objective One: We recognize that Chicanismo is evolutionary and that a Chicano identity is not a nationality but a philosophy. Chicano nationalism is the key to taking our people forward. MEChA will not discriminate against any Mechista who works for and adopts Chicanismo as indicated in El Plan de Santa Barbara, and the Philosophy of MEChA This philosophy is the key to taking our people forward.
"For decades Mexican people in the United States struggled to realize the 'American Dream.' And some--a few--have. But the cost, the ultimate cost of assimilation, required turning away from el bario and la colonia. In the meantime, due to the racist structure of this society, to our essentially different life style, and to the socio-economic functions assigned to our community by Anglo-American society--as suppliers of cheap labor and a dumping ground for the small-time capitalist entrepreneur--the barrio and colonia remained exploited, impoverished, and marginal".
"Commitment to the struggle for Chicano liberation is the operative definition of the ideology used here. Chicanismo involves a crucial distinction in political consciousness between a Mexican American and a Chicano mentality. The Mexican American is a person who lacks respect for his cultural and ethnic heritage. Unsure of himself, he seeks assimilation as a way out of his 'degraded' social status. Consequently, he remains politically ineffective.
So let me spell this out for you ... not only do these creeps decry "Assimilation" ... which pretty much tells you that they are not "immigrants" looking to join the American family, but invaders hell bent on conquest (Reconquest) .... they even denigrate their own "Race" if they don't commit themselves to "La Causa" .... in their eyes, our fellow Americans who are of Mexican descent are weak minded, lacking the proper self respect that a true Chicano should have .... all because they choose to be a part of America, and not Anti-American, with the goal of taking over and creating their "Aztlan" which will be free of non-Chicanos.
I don't know what else someone needs to hear before "getting the message"? Seems pretty loud and clear, and I've just scratched the surface.
I'm going to leave it here. This is plenty enough to get you started.
Uh; I looked at the La Raza sites a few years back and they were loaded with what you said. I said today I JUST looked at them again and that reconquista stuff gone off them.
"MEChA must bring to the mind of every young Chicana and Chicano that the liberation of her/his people from prejudice and oppression is in her/his hands and this responsibility is greater than personal achievement and more meaningful than degrees, especially if they are earned at the expense of her/his identity and cultural integrity. MEChA, then, is more than a name; it is a spirit of unity, of sisterhood and brotherhood, and a resolve to undertake a struggle for liberation in society where justice is but a word. MEChA is a means to an end" (El Plan de Santa Barbara).
That sounds more like "pride" than racism IMHO. Much like Black hood rats stepping up, taking care of business and becoming civilized people.
White people invented scalping. Back when they were waging warfare on horseback in Central Asia (a few thousand years ago), they'd scalp their enemies, and build a stockade of spears with their slain enemies' heads impaled on top. The chief would have a victory stockade like that around his tent. They drank out of gold-lined cups make from human skulls. One of those was found by archeologists as far west as Germany. Closer to our time, Germanic tribes were hired by the Roman army in their wars of conquest around Europe, because the Germans were known for their extraordinary fierceness and brutality. Archaeologists have found severed heads in Danish bogs.
Barbarous bloodlust is not exclusive to any one ethnicity.
Ruth ... you don't much care for anglos, do you? I mean, really .... taking this debate over modern Mexican thugs and criminals invading our country and declaring some mythical ownership of the land, to recounting what white people have done going back to the days of the Roman Empire pretty much exposes your attitude.
"Barbarous blood lust" is certainly not exclusive to any ethnicity, though I do detect a convenient blind spot for those of you sympathizing with and promoting the perpetual victim hood of brown people at the hands of those evil anglos.
Unfortunately for the Chicano movement and your apologetic stance and overt deceptiveness, the claims and twisted distortions of reality centers around their own racist mentality, not at all unlike any other group throughout human history who promote their own ethnic based superiority over everyone else.
Not only is such racism totally illegitimate regardless of context or the color of one's skin who promotes it, in the case of this "Chicano" movement of "reconquista", it's totally void of any historical legitimacy to it's alleged territorial claims. The very concept of "Aztlan" is a damned mythical legend to begin with. Couple that with the fact that the Aztec Empire was in the throws of conquest by the Spanish before the first pilgrim landed on the east coast of North America, and this idea that "Aztlan" was stolen from them, and includes major portions of the United States is pure nonsense. The Spanish who conquered the Aztec Empire that was geographically located in modern day Mexico proper, never extended into the north, and it was indeed the Spanish that made claims to all of North America ... as well as half of the rest of the bloody globe from the Phillipenes to Cuba. So this indegenious peoples claim is just racist rhetoric coming from a bunch of Mexican criminals who have invaded our country, only to cite the resistence to their invasion as "oppression". Sure!! The evil white man is oppressing the poor brown people who are actually invaders of the land that doesn't belong to them.
Even as a significant minority, the extent of their extreme racist rhetoric foretells a bleak future for everyone should these ner-do-wells ever achieve significant numbers and political influence. They're blood thirsty, racist cockroaches and should be treated as such ... not apologized for and sympathized with. Drape their racist carcasses with their beloved Mexican flag, and send them home where they belong.
Those that want to be Americans and join our family, we've got room. Those that want to create "Aztlan" and ethnically cleanse the area are mortal enemies of every American citizen, just as much as any uniformed invading army would be, and should be met with the same force and goal to drive them out or eliminate them.
Any group that tries to promote itself as better than others is racist.
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