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Old 07-15-2011, 02:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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First Read - What Americans support (and don't support) in cutting the deficit

Republicans want to strictly cut government spending, while preserving all tax cuts and tax breaks. President Obama, by contrast, favors a balanced approach -- some spending cuts, plus revenue increases and tax hikes.

But what about the American public? Back in February, at the very outset of this deficit/debt debate, our NBC/WSJ poll measured 26 different ways to reduce the deficit or to cut spending. The list runs from most acceptable to least acceptable.

-- Placing a surtax on federal income taxes for people earning over $1 million a year: 81% acceptable
-- Eliminating spending on so-called earmarks for special projects and specific areas of the country: 78% acceptable
-- Eliminating funding for weapons systems the Defense Department says are not necessary: 76% acceptable
-- Eliminating tax credits for the oil and gas industries: 74% acceptable
-- Phasing out the Bush tax cuts for families earning $250,000 or more per year: 68% acceptable
-- Freezing annual domestic spending at its current level for the next five years: 67% acceptable
-- Reducing Medicare and Social Security benefits for wealthier retirees: 62% acceptable
-- Gradually raising the Social Security retirement age to 69 by 2075: 56% acceptable
-- Cutting funding for the new health-care law so that parts of it will not be put into effect or enforced: 51% acceptable
-- Reducing agriculture subsidies or support to farmers and ranchers: 45% acceptable
-- Eliminating funding to Planned Parenthood for family planning and preventive health services: 45% acceptable
-- Gradually turning Medicare from a system in which the government pays for most beneficiaries' medical bills into a program in which seniors would receive government-assisted vouchers to purchase private insurance: 44% acceptable
Among the budget cuts:
Subsidies to build new nuclear power plants: 57% acceptable
Federal assistance to state governments: 52% acceptable
The Environmental Protection Agency: 51%
Transportation and infrastructure projects: 51%
Scientific and medical research: 48%
National defense: 46%
Unemployment insurance: 43%
Head Start: 41%
College student loans: 39%
Heating assistance to low-income families: 34%
Medicaid: 32%
Medicare: 23%
K-12 education: 22%
Social Security: 22%

 
Old 07-15-2011, 02:30 PM
 
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-- Eliminating funding for weapons systems the Defense Department says are not necessary: 76% acceptable
I found this one kind of funny.

If the Defense Department says that Weapon System A is not necessary, why wouldn't 100% of those polled be in agreement with that. Who are these 24% of the people who would find it distasteful to cut weapons programs that even the DoD says are wasteful. Weird.

Anyway, back on topic as I'm sure that wasn't where you were going with this thread.

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Old 07-15-2011, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I found this one kind of funny.

If the Defense Departmetn says that Weapon System A is not necessary, why wouldn't 100% of those polled be in agreement with that. Who are these 24% of the people who would find it distasteful to cut weapons programs that even the DoD says are wasteful. Weird.

Anyway, back on topic as I'm sure that wasn't where you were going with this thread.
There are many who believe every penny spent on military is well spent (necessary weapons or not). The defence industry has a very strong influence in US politics.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 02:42 PM
 
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"-- Gradually turning Medicare from a system in which the government pays for most beneficiaries' medical bills into a program in which seniors would receive government-assisted vouchers to purchase private insurance: 44% acceptable"

- Vouchers (Medicare) for those over 65 will not work - Period. Their premiums will be too costly - even if
they can find a carrier.
They will surely die of malnutrition because of
paying for that health care premium instead.

The demographic of the elderly (poverty and elder illness)
was the very reason Medicare was enacted in the
first place.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Your list did not include hundreds, if not thousands of other programs that should be cut.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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There are many who believe every penny spent on military is well spent (necessary weapons or not). The defence industry has a very strong influence in US politics.
The defense industry not defence insustry has a very stroung influence on our freedom
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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The defense industry not defence insustry has a very stroung influence on our freedom
Economic security is a far greater threat than obliging to every whim of corporations and politicians (benefiting from it) in the cloak of "defense". Heck, you just might be among the 24% who consider zero possibility of waste in military spending.

PS. "Defence" is not wrong, it is "English" spelling. OTOH, insustry and stroung...

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Old 07-15-2011, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The defense industry not defence insustry has a very stroung influence on our freedom
It's industry, not insustry, and it's strong, not stroung. If you are going to correct my spelling, you need to correct your own first.

It doesn't mean we have to drown them in money if they sell overpriced weapons which the military has no use for.
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:10 PM
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Obama is spending $1T more than 5 years ago. What the American people want is some rational explanation of where all the additional money is going and what we're getting in return, other than 9%+ unemployment and 1.9% GDP growth...
 
Old 07-15-2011, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Obama is spending $1T more than 5 years ago. What the American people want is some rational explanation of where all the additional money is going and what we're getting in return, other than 9%+ unemployment and 1.9% GDP growth...
And in 2000, the spending was a trillion dollar less than it was in 2007. Where were these idiots?

BTW, five years ago, the tax revenue was also several hundred dollars more (and war expenses weren't being "registered" in budgets, they were kept off budget). I'm pretty sure, these people you speak of aren't smart enough to have all the details.
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