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So it seems that a lrage per centage wnat to assure their continuing depednence on governamnt. What a surprise. I greece people alos areanti-paying the bills.
It is unimaginable that one president can take a solid economy with udget surplus in 2000 and turn it into a complete disaster in only 8 years. It is hard to imagine, but it did happen.
Clinton had deficit spending each and every year, there was no surplus, because he always spent more then was budgeted.
But I'll agree that Bush spent like a drunken sailor, only if you agree that 0bama is spending like a drunken Marxist.
If you must know, I never heard Obama talk about 80%. When I said 80%, it was a matter of simple math: only 20% think 'cuts only' is a good idea, so then 80% support some kind of mix of cuts and other measures.
Here ya go..he says it several times..around 3:00 minute mark.
Ryan's plan is a start in the right direction, where is the Reid or 0bama plan? There is none. Its been over 800 days since Reid presented a budget plan, so why is he even at these meetings, being as he has nothing at all to offer.
And Joe's plan. Why is everyone forgetting Joe's plan.
It was all over the news for months that Biden cut $1T and was going to present his plan. Then he took off for Italy for 1 week when it came time and he's been out of the spotlight since.
Um...what? Watch out, your ignorance is showing. As I said before, all of those states voted democrat in the 2008 national election. Please actually READ what I post before saying anything again.
I will re-state it. This poll shows us that 71% of african americans and democrats in states who all voted democrat in the last presidential election believe the GOP is handling the debt ceiling poorly.
If you refute that, please actually post some data to back yourself up.
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Had Obama pulled his my way or the highway walkout of the meeting he called when that poll was taken? I guess if he had mostly Democrats of one kind or another must have been polled.
Re-stating errors doesn't make them right, and guessing doesn't replace reading skills, either.
Total Respondents: 810
Total Republicans: 214
Total Democrats: 272
Total Independents: 324
"Do you approve or disapprove of the way Republicans in Congress are handling the current negotiations on the debt ceiling?"
Approve: R - 42, D - 11, I - 17
Disapprove: R - 51, D - 82, I - 73
Poll taken July 15 - 17.
When you consider the Right's message that Independents lean more conservative than moderate these days and that Obama is only liked by super-liberals, the numbers from Independents are interesting. They seem disapproving of both sides, but more so at Republicans.
No links from me but last week or the week before (time flies, you know), the Dems plan was $4Trillion in cuts with 1 Trillion in revenue increases (taxes). That plan was turned down.
When asked what these "cuts" consisted of, nobody could give an answer.
They are just pulling numbers out of the thin air - same as they're doing by printing trillions of dollars from nowhere.
However, KoolAid stock must be soaring.
BTW - those $4 Trillion in "cuts" would be spread over 12 years...or about $300 Billion/year. The current annual deficit is $1.4 Trillion/year.
Whoopdedoo.
Plus the massive deficits Medicare & SS are about to explode with all the boomers retiring, so who is he kidding?
No, the reason that I don't have a link was because I didn't feel like getting one at the moment.
Yes, the cuts were down the road.
I'm not here to argue the 4TRILLION/1TRILLION plan. You asserted that there was no plan. Yes, there was. You might not like it/agree with it/discount it but it was still a plan. That was what I was responding to.
uhm
1. it was a 3/1 'plan'
2. there never has been a plan from obamy...just talk
3. and most importantly...what is cutting 4 trillion (OVER TEN YEARS) going to do...thats about 400 billion a year.....we currently have a 1.4(1.6 actually) trillion dollar DEFICIT....cutting .4 trillion off a 1.4 trillion dollar deficit is...still deficit spending
when will the dumbocrats figure this out
we need 14 trillion(over ten years) worth of cuts...anything less is a fail
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Clinton had deficit spending each and every year, there was no surplus, because he always spent more then was budgeted.
But I'll agree that Bush spent like a drunken sailor, only if you agree that 0bama is spending like a drunken Marxist.
I am not looking for agreement, because I know Bush spent like a drunken sailor, and I know Obama is spending as well. The funny thing is that their spending targets is practically identical, so if one is a marxist, then so is the other. I did not vote for either, so I am not obligated to defend either.
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