Workers Share Of National Income Collapsing

[EinsteinsGhost]

Originally Posted by AeroGuyDC

The entire "right wing ideology is to blame" mantra is just stupid. To support that assertion, one would have to completely absolve Democratic policymaking, Democratic voting records, and Democratic deal-making over the past 30 years.

The assertion simply doesn't pass the laugh test to even warrant defending conservative ideology.

So, you're accepting that the OP is pointing at right wing ideology, and hence you felt the need to, instead of acknowledging it and arguing against it, thought you had to defend it by accusing democrats of doing what you support? So, how are these democrats a problem, but you're not? Or, is there no problem? (in which case, you should have pointed out in the first response)

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by padcrasher

This is what you get when:

1) You will not tax the wealthy at modestly higher rates.

2) You badmouth and whittle away at union bargaining rights.

3) You are apathetic or hostile to raises in the minimum wage.

4) You change laws to strip workers of their rights and benefits.

5) You will not fund the IRS properly to go after tax cheats and close corporate tax loopholes.

Wow! Why don't you pull that shrine to Herr Josef Göbbels out of your closet for the rest of us to see?

None of those things have any bearing on anything.

Let's check out PadCrasher's impeccable logic.

2) You badmouth and whittle away at union bargaining rights.
3) You are apathetic or hostile to raises in the minimum wage.

According to PadCrasher, an $8/hour Call-Center Worker cannot compete against Call-Center Workers earning $0.75/hour to $3.00/hour in India, Indonesia, Spain, Romania, Ukraine and elsewhere.

His solutions are to either

1) Raise minimum wage to a "living wage" of $10/hour so that the Call-Center Worker can, what? More effectively compete against the Global Call-Center Workers?

or

2) Unionize the Call-Center Workers so that they get $17/hour and they can, um, you know, compete better against Call-Center Workers earning $0.75/hour to $3.00/hour globally.

1) You will not tax the wealthy at modestly higher rates.

As we continue our study of PadCrasher's extraordinary logic, taxing the "rich" will somehow improve the plight of Call-Center Workers and prevent them from losing their jobs or having their wages reduced further.

Unfortunately, he doesn't explain how that works.

May we assume he wants to tax the "rich" and give the money to Call-Center Workers in other countries as an incentive to not compete against US Call-Center Workers?

Or should we assume he wants to tax the "rich" and then pay life-time unemployment benefits to Call-Center Workers who lose their jobs so they can sit around for the next 60 years hoping to get a job as a Call-Center Worker?

Perhaps I misunderstood. Perhaps what PadCrasher is saying is that if the government had only taxed the "rich" all those years then we could have subsidized those employees who worked in the buggy whip and 8-Track Tape manufacturing industries, and they wouldn't have lost their jobs and then everything would be beautiful.

4) You change laws to strip workers of their rights and benefits.

Well, let's see. If we follow PadCrasher's logic:

1) The workers don't understand that they are losing their jobs permanently because they are unable to compete in the global work force.

2) The workers are unable to compete in the global work force because their wages and benefits are substantially and outrageously higher than the wages and benefits of workers in the global work force

3) The wages and benefits of the workers are substantially and outrageously higher than those of workers in the global work force, because the workers buried their heads in the sand and looked the other way while their government slanted the playing field far to their advantage, (and the workers benefited handsomely from that for more than 50 years).

So PadCrasher's solution is to give the workers even more rights and give them even more benefits so that the workers, who no doubt made very sound economic and political decisions, can put themselves into an untenable position and lose their jobs permanently at an even faster rate.

Sounds good to me.